Apparently Biden WANTS To Lose The Election

I think of Candice Owens, Milo Yiannopoulos, and Dave Rubin. All ‘left the left’ for highly dubious reasons.

Joe Rogan has had them on his podcast show. He’ll interview anybody. He knows that he’s just a comedian/MMA fighter/reality show host, and that he’s hardly anything resembling an actual pundit or scientist. Yet he easily dismantled their arguments, exposing all three as grifters.

Those three have been successful for two reasons.
1: They’re well-funded by plutocrats.
2: Their fanbase are/were brainwashed fools.

Joe Biden finished near the bottom of his college class. But then, so likely did Trump (but he wisely keeps his records hidden.) This is what a plutocrat dominated society looks like. Utter incompetency at those things which matter for the 99%.

I can not read the mind of the Catfood Democrat elites. I can only guess what they are “really thinkenfeeling” based on what they do and write and say.

Their one Prime Directive was to prevent Sanders getting the nomination at all costs. Did they really WANT to lose the election? I don’t know. How can I know? I know they were prepared to lose the election as a risk worth running to secure the higher benefit to themselves of keeping Sanders off the ballot.

I have a feeling the Catfood Democrat elites want to throw the election if they can somehow make it look like a genuine loss. In this hypothesis, they hope that another Trump term will cause so much suffering in the land that all the Deplorables will beg the Democrats to save them in 2024, and the Catfood Democrat ticket will win by a “Nixon in ’72” landslide in 2024. I don’t know that. But I have that feeling. Otherwise, why nominate slow-thinking Joe in particular?
Joe Biden! Feel the dementum . . .

@Ian Welsh

It is not insane or malpractice at all, rather it is an intentional strategy. Like Pee Wee says, ha ha I meant to do that!

The Democrats are mostly just a front for wealthy donors. And sure, they work to promote the progressive brand as a way to lure in rubes and create the illusion of inclusive politics. But at the end of the day they are a party of the status quo.

And I quote: \”Nothing will fundamentally change.\” That includes ignoring deplorables.

What is sad is to see all those people in the south vote against themselves during the 2020 primaries.

I don’t disagree that DNC Democrats are more concerned with keeping control of the Dem. Party than they are with actually winning the presidential election. But if they lose to Trump after all this – the pandemic, the economic depression, the horrible poll numbers, all the Never-Trump Republicans switching sides , all the scandals – why should anyone take the Democrats seriously as a national party? They may well be fine with losing, but if they keep losing time after time, they’ll be in danger of becoming irrelevant. Which is a very dangerous position for a political party to be in.

@Keith in Modesto,

The Catfood Democrats accept becoming irrelevant as a party eventually, as long as they can make personal money on the way down. And then cash in on their private sector contacts by entering the private sector to collect their reward. They can see how richly Clinton was rewarded for his loyal service to the upper class. They can see how richly rewarded the Obamas are and will be into the future.

And they and their campaign apparatchiks and consultants keep raising and getting money to keep running the ” Fighting for You” rackets. Maybe the party will disappear in due time, but in the meantime, they make money. And if it disappears, they’ve got theirs in personal money-and-connections terms. So what do they care?

While the analysis of Democratic Party leaders as happy with the way things are explains most of what’s going on, there’s another thing at work. The young DNC staff and workers who came into the party with Obama’s campaign had a narcissistic love of social media and the web. In my area they actively insulted the local organization for wasting time on the classical ground game, including yard signs. They’re now running campaigns.

Sanders’ great sin was articulating leftist policies, but he drew additional antagonism for effective use of the internet. That’s the hip, educated, with-it characteristic of the Democrats. We’re talking about the party that launched what it insisted was its signature achievement (the ACA) on line, and when that was a debacle, they doubled down on it.

I think there is a psychological issue, of professional class workers feeling superiority over the deplorables who don’t spend time on their computers.

What different clue is describing is how bribery works nowadays. Groups, corps, lobbyists signal their intention with campaign contributions while the pol is in office, and then it is the gravy train after they leave. The thing is pols don’t have to be particularly competent, just loyal, and they get the treatment, not so much for them but as a signal to those who follow them.

I agree too a new political party is needed. Clear vision, simple straightforward platform. Nail those who renege on them and reward those who fight and win them.

nihil obstet, is it a generational thing? I am always amazed at how connected to social media a lot of the younger people I know are through their phones. They’re pretty working class but sometimes I get the impression they would just stop and freeze up if they didn’t have their phones, apps, play stations, and to a lesser extent computers.

I was living in Kenosha County in 2016 when the Hillbots decided to win by not engaging with Wisconsonians. From the ground (I was working on a congressional campaign) it truly seemed as if they were doing everything in their power to lose the state (which is actually somewhat larger than just Milwaukee — hell, they avoided Madison because they couldn’t deal with progressives).

Now I live in rural Minnesota where the Democrats are trying just as hard to give away the state. Got a Build it Back Better bullshit mailer from Biden today that will have zero impact on my small town where my next door neighbor has a “Trump: Fuck Your Feelings” flag on permanent display. The DCCC’s choice for Congress sent me a flyer with him wearing Bidenesque sunglasses while in uniform (two years ago that same candidate almost won with a picture of him and his family gathered around the dinner table but now he looks more like The Terminator).

The neolibs have purged the party of everyone who ever worked on successful campaign (the progressive worker bees who used to do most of the work on the ground). All that are left are the fakes who buy apps and then party two nights before the Iowa Caucuses because last minute scut work is for drones and not the elite crony hires in charge.

I realize I sound bitter. That took a lot of tone editing because mostly these days I just want to take up arms against the pedophilia-tolerant creeps running the Democratic party.

Yes, the party doesn’t care about winning, it cares about getting paid. As far as they are concerned, you need rich people to get paid. That is why they don’t want to talk about things things that make rich people uncomfortable. In addition these people don’t lose their jobs just because they lose elections.

After eight years of Obama’s leadership, the party was nearly extinct, and Obama is still giving the orders.

There is no organizational interest, and therefore no strategic thinking going on here. No one is thinking about what is best for the Party. No one is sacrificing anything or exerting any effort on behalf of an organizational interest, they just frame their arguments that way, I guess for the same reason they insist that they care about winning.

The party is just a way for the people who run it to get paid, and Obama had to intervene to save those people from Sanders, because they were incapable of acting towards a common purpose, even to do that.

This is a hallmark of American elites; any loyalty to a higher purpose than their paycheck has been completely eliminated, and every one of them is running whatever organization or sector of society they preside over, right into the ground. They think their paycheck is the reason those organizations exist, so they can be well paid, as they deserve to be. The point of elite status isn’t service, it’s privilege.

How does losing to trump effect the party’s cash flow? Because losing last time has probably been fabulous.

So the Party becomes irrelevant. And? What is the mechanism by which the gravy train stops?

For forty years, the dems have been remaking themselves into Republican Party 2.0, because the money is better. Now they are ready to finally make the transition to the voting base they really want; suburban Republicans. Maybe they see trump as an opportunity to finally show their own voters the door, and get better voters, ones who dont demonize people for wanting to make a decent living.

About Clinton in the Brexit States . . . I read somewhere that the Clinton group feared that if she showed up in person in a Brexit State, that she would lose support there. Part of why she lost the Brexit States is legacy bitterness over her husband’s NAFTA/WTO/MFN for China. And her support for TPP. Her lawyerly pretense otherwise in the last months of the campaign did not fool anyone out here.

Good point DC; sanctions have actually helped [they do hurt short term] both Russia and Iran develop stronger industry. Too bad we can’t have sanctions applied against the USA; yes, they do hurt in the short term but putting people to work producing “things” that people use day to day is an important part of an industrialized nation…a lot of white collar technical jobs depend on domestic production lines.

Snyder endorsing Biden is another nail in the coffin for him in Michigan. Good luck getting voters in Flint excited about voting for Biden. This was a good episode about the endorsement on Michael Moore’s podcast: https://youtu.be/u2Ai5jcQotI

@hugh, is it a generational thing? Yes, I’d say with a certain type of 30 to 45 year old. The ones who got on board with Sanders learned the old direct organizing approach.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died? Well, I looked at the interwebs and they say she did. So it must be so. It is not good for the rest of us, but she may have just had enough.

How will Trump and the Republican Senators respond? Will they nominate and confirm a Justice before the election, to make sure of filling that seat? Will they leave the seat empty through election day in order to use ” Supreme Court!” as a campaign issue? I can’t even guess.

Whatever they do, the Democrats will re-act in a way to give the appearance of responding without actually responding at all. I believe any Senator can still put a Senatorial Hold on a Supreme Court nominee without having to give any reason at all. If the Republican majority think a Democratic Senator would actually place such a hold, they will re-write the Senate Rules in order to erase the rule giving any Senator the privilege of placing a Hold on any nominee.
If the Rep Sens don’t erase that ” placing of the Hold” rule, it means they are confident that no Democratic Senator would ever use it, though if they thought Sanders might use it they might erase that rule just to make sure.

To all appearances they actually don’t care if Biden wins, or Trump loses.

Or they are completely incompetent.

Why not both?

Many “Joe Sixpack” Democrats I know are frantic, and want Trump gone with a genuine passion. I think the “Pelosi-level” Democrats truly don’t care – the good life goes on whether Trump stays or Biden moves to the White House. So “incompetent indifference” works just fine for them, and all the campaign money rolling in is great for feathering their nests.

It’s the top .01% – or 20-30 thousand rich bastards – who will decide how this November plays out. It’s my personal opinion they’re done with Trump. He has gotten them many reduced regulations, lower taxes, and a rich Covid payola. The Supreme Court is in great shape from their point of view.
But Trump’s clumsy and creepy and often moronic behavior has disturbed many rich-people projects, and besides that, Iran remains un-whacked.

From my point of view Biden is a worthless POS, and always has been. But for that top .01%, he is the pick of the litter. Especially with the backup VP Harris.

Bloomberg’s throwing money at Florida signals to me the Dump Trump movement is well and good, and the existence of the Lincoln Project indicates top-tier Republicans feel the very same way.

My projection: Biden moves into the White House, and Trump departs. Trump isn’t very bright, but the man is probably negotiating terms of his departure at this very moment. (He’s much dumber than I think if he isn’t!) Rich bastards win, the rest of us make an even swap of “Bad”/”Bad”. Or Bad to Worse.

Rest in Peace Justice Bader-Ginsburg.

Does Trump want to win? The death of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg may create an opportunity to find out.

1] Will Trump delay a Supreme Nomination until after election? [Trump wants to lose].

2] Will Trump nominate a fire breathing right-wing nut job? [Trump wants to lose].

3] Will Trump nominate another Gorsuch who wrote the majority opinion that granted transgender persons full protection under the 1964 Civil Right act? [Trump wants to win and govern].

Zachary Smith;

I’ve been reading your comments for a while, you wouldn’t know “Joe Sixpack” if he walked across the room and slapped you in the face, threw you to the ground and started kissing you on the lips.

Ref:

“Many “Joe Sixpack” Democrats I know are frantic, and want Trump gone with a genuine passion.” – Zachary Smith

Biden signaled that he wanted to lose the election when he chose a Black lady as VP. It was the one thing he could do to blow it, and he did it.

That Biden’s campaign does not put up lawn signs and hand out buttons and bumper stickers is less troubling to me than their reluctance to make a promise to solve a manifest problem or deliver a tangible benefit.

I am inclined to think that Sanders in 2016 did as well as he did because he promised to do things to solve real problems for people.

Apparently, Biden has found a constituency that would rather government not solve problems or deliver public goods. Whether from a lack of conviction that the government could competently deliver something, anything effectively or just a deep pessimism or an unwillingness to see those (other) people get something, there is a voting bloc that just does not want to.

The unenthusiasm of the Biden campaign may reflect the organizers and their professional indifference to substantive politics. but, it may also fit a mood of many voters.

With a solid majority of American voters favoring Medicare for All, Biden announced that he would veto a MfA bill if it got to his desk. He didn’t follow the contemporary practice of lying about what he would do (because since Reagan effectiveness is the goal, not integrity). He didn’t even remain silent on the subject, or bury it under weasel words. It would appear that he doesn’t want to win.

However, the good committed Democratic Party people I know will explain to me that what polls well doesn’t win in the voting booth. Furthermore, they have heard the name “Joe Biden” all their political lives, associated with good liberal causes. They simply don’t believe that he has spent his career trying to undo the New Deal. I suspect that I’ve developed something of a reputation as a FOX news addict (note: I cut the cable over five years ago) because I keep pointing out what Democratic Party leaders have actually done. It’s the adult version of believing in Santa Claus.

Tinky, propaganda and fiction do not equate to broadening one’s sources of information.