MAGA Are Fundamentally Morons

You know what programmig does to people.

Anyway, the riots are coming:

Trump Admin Threatens to Stop Social Security If DOGE Can’t Have Personal Data

Trump’s interim Social Security chief says he wants to turn off the program if Musk and DOGE can’t access Americans’ most sensitive data

https://archive.ph/k9efu

They are going to do this and intentionally crash the economy.

Then they are going to attempt to complete their Eretz Israel plans.

WWIII. Or whatever number it is.

I have a place to stay (for now) but I’ll effectively have no regular money stream. It’s not much anyway but I’ve learned to live on it.

I would give my real email to Ian (and specific location) but I do not have permission of the owner to share this space at this time. But I will work on that.

I am also a weird guy. Obviously.

This is of course absolutely silly if what I just outlined really comes to pass because it will be essentially anarchy – in the negtive sense of the word – I imagine.

Agreed, Ian. Trump is an accelerationist, he is speeding the bus careening off the cliff edge that is the U.S.A. However, it seems only fair to note that both parties have the same donors & the same outcome of utter Oligarchic control and economic devastation of the US populace is guaranteed whichever of the duopoly are ruling.

There’s an old Harper’s article about Sarajevo in 2015, and an alternative politician, Mr. Gratz, who compares his small political party to Greece’s Syriza, before they crumbled and sold out: “There is no democracy here. Politicians have access to money, they are deeply corrupt, and every aspect of public life is criminalized. . . [Think of young people demonstrating against a Genocide and being arrested, expelled from their colleges, etc. for “anti-Semitism”!!] , , , & morally so sold, so compromised, that it is almost impossible to understand how we get along with it. . . . we are simply a problem [in Europe] to be dealt with.”

That is what it feels like to be living in the US, 2025. Due Dissidence (I know the anti-Semites might come out foaming and frothing at the mention) had a segment today on MAGA, & shared something really ugly. The amount of the public who have “confidence” in what the government is doing now = 44% . . . the last time it was 44% was . . . 8 weeks into Bush Junior’s Iraq Invasion. Obviously the MAGAts are the 44%. BUT let’s not forget the # of brain-dead people that had confidence in Genocide Joe, then in Kamala, although the Dems openly spit in their voters’ faces. (On economics, on Israel, etc.)

People are united on one side or the other over their 2 “teams”, imagining that theirs is on their side. US politics is like a cargo cult. Nothing positive can be achieved within it.

Your last post was on Europe, a dead letter. the US is a dead . . . I dunno, log. Something bigger than a letter, will take longer to fall/ burn, whatever metaphor we choose. But it is irredemable, short of Revolution.

& as Grim Jim loves to note, ‘Muricans are too sick, demoralized, weak to ever have a revolution. Kind of funny that ignorant Peasants in 1917 Russia were tougher and more resilient and had more agency than 21st century ‘Muricans. But that’s self-evidently the case.

Dudek didn’t propose more cuts he announced he is going to shut the entire agency down. The quid-pro-quo is complete unfetterred access to the system by these unelected unrepresentative ‘DOGE’ domestic terrorists led by drug-addled psycopath Musk.

You have to understand that Social Security is embedded even in the various middle class strata I’ve been talking about.

Medicaid pays for nursing home and some home care services i believe.

This will devastate both inner city and rural areas.

Yes, nj still has rural areas. And pinelands.

That’s medicaid.

Social Security includes SSDI (I receive that) and SSI. The first is for disability and is based on how much you payed in before you went on it and payments are based on that. You have to have to worked to receive it. SSi is for disabled but it is current income-based and doesn’t require any work history. But it is for low-income. SSDI isn’t necessarily for low income. One can receive it and still have significant assets. Or not. SSI has asset limits.

I receive around a thousand bucks a month. It goes right back into the ‘productive’ economy.

I think people can receive upwards of 3500-4000 month SSDI. I don’t know how common that is. i assuem most of it goes back into said economy at various levels as well. any savings goes to stock market or govt treasuries?

Now, here’s the thing: many of the various levels of the ‘middle’ classes we’ve been talking about – many of whom overlap/are integrated with the ‘lower’ classes to at least some degree – many or pretty much all of these people have their retirements which includes both current income streams and current ongoing saving/investing, helping the kids etc – many these peopel have substantial reliance on the SS part of their income steam.

This is how financial planning has been done – the SS – a substantial amount of the overall money even for people who have other savings – is included as an integral part of the family plan. This has been done for decades. I know because I was doing it for a while. Many here must know this.

This is going to severely impact all levels of society except the ultra wealthy. Many of the various strata of middle class as well. And they are much more easily agitated.

I am friendly on a casual basis with some friends in Atlantic City (I am a bit of a loner but i can be gregarious when i’m out) – we just ‘shoot the shit’ for a while when i visit town. anyway, there is enough vigor and solidarity in enough of the population to fight and there are food banks and churches thta have stepped up and will continue to do so so people won’t die immediately from starvation but they will be solely reliant on handouts of this sort and i don’t know what will happen to their rent money. even public housing has to pay some.

the healthcare is going to be the big nightmare. but there are resoures in the immediate area. what are now private med facilities of all sizes are going to have to offer services free. they will be forced to.

but the money pool is shrinking among all these levels. the small businesses which have been hit so hard will continue to suffer if everyone has less money obviously. casino tourism will be down. tropicana – where i go to wander around aimlessly while watching the gamblers but not partaking in the activity – the trop is union. but i don’t think blatstein’s showboat is. he’s just been called out for not paying contractors and what have you despite all the profits.

Muricans are too sick, demoralized, weak to ever have a revolution

There is still life energy Mark but no true organizational solidarity. As I suspect you’re aware everything has become very intentionally divided in the dis-US.

But there is substantial demoralization, weakness, sickness, addiction. Yes.

Revolution? There was no revolution that brought Russia back to glory this time around.

If enough SSA-deadstopped people have relatives in the Armed Forces, especially the Combat Arms parts of the Armed Forces, will the Armed Forces decide a rebellion followed by a “Constitutional Salvation Emergency Government” is in order? If several hundred thousand Combat Arms personnel all hear from their SSA-deadstopped relatives?

I suspect the Musk Administration’s first hope from this threat is to extort the Congress into legislating total records and data access for every single thing in SSA’s records to the DOGE team, in expectation that the Congress will so legislate. And which Trump would then sign. ( The only thing which could get the DemSenators to vote against it once the House votes for it would be thousands of credible-but-anonymous assassination threats against every Dem Senator and every Dem Senator’s family member who votes for this once the House sends it over). The MAGAs would all tell their Republican Senators to vote for it of course. Because their divine God Emperor Trump wants it.

What if Congress were not to so legislate? Would the MuskAdmin have Dudek turn off the SSA? The results could be interesting. I hope we get to see them.

“Trump’s budget requires massive cuts to Medicaid, which disproportionately helps Red State Republicans.”
How so? Red States have on average a higher Federal match than do blue.
Their voters will get hurt more

Had to check myself for a moment and wonder if I posted my Tylenol codeine comment here or on yesterday’s board.
Anyway, thanks Ian for sharing experiences and insights while allowing and providing us anonymous internet travelers a place at the intergalactic bar to drop a load.

Here is a little item from the antimoneymemes subreddit titled: ” That’s working class solidarity right there! <3 "

Here is the link:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Antimoneymemes/comments/1jgn2cp/thats_working_class_solidarity_right_there_3/

A little deeper down it said that "Greyhound" . . . . as in " Greyhound the business" is instructing its drivers to not let ICE conduct routine immigrant checks on its buses. If that is so, that means that Greyhound the business has decided that cooperating with ICE in this matter is bad for business.

I’m going down to that Texas town/do
you wanna go?
I hear they got some crazy little women down there. . .
What do you say or do when you encounter some bearded rock trio in a Dallas airport waiting room?
Nada. Sit there and wait for your flight call.
Someone calls your name and you don’t know if they’re calling you.

Hello Jennifer Soakchair, please pick up the nearest courtesy telephone.

Probably not a thing anymore. Been a while since I frequented airports.

Every migrant has to navigate and find a way. . .

Kindness helps us all along the way. . .
May all travelers find their destination safe and sound.