There Are Only Two Ways To Handle Trump’s Threats

Yes, Vance will be worse. He is smarter, slyer, slimier and meaner. And he also appears committed to a group of anti-Vatican II Catholic reactionary cultists, as well as supportive of the New Apostolic Reformationaries ( “narzis”) who want to make America into a Gilead Christofascist Theotyranny.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Apostolic_Reformation
(Since Big Silicon wants to turn America into a series of technofeudal fiefdoms ruled over by Silicon Pharaohs, the Christianarzis and Big Silicon will have a big fight over which one rules and which one serves or dies.)

The sooner we can delete Trump one way or another, the sooner we get to “Take a Chance with Vance” and see what that means and feels like.

I too have been impressed with the deceitful cowardice of Big Ivy and Big White Shoe. They thought that appearing to “give in to Trump” would create a credible-looking cover under which to do what they already wanted to do. And they are just now finding out that the Trumpster will always want more. ( And that Vance is hiding behind Trump to achieve the extermination of Big Ivy, Big Land Grant, and Free Academia altogether.)

People will fight due to deeply held principles, or for something they emotionally care about.
The Ivy’s et al didn’t cave to authoritarian demands (supporting genocide, forced injections, censorship, etc) because they’re dumb cowards. They caved because they don’t have principles and don’t care about anyone but themselves.

Likewise with the Democratic establishment. Did they fight for a higher minimum wage, No.
Did they fight for bodily anatomy, No they violated it.
Did they fight for free speech, No, they violated it.
What did they fight for? War, genocide, censorship, and pharma profits.

Anyone ever thinking about negotiating with Trump needs to watch The Sopranos.

This is how Trump thinks. This is how Trump works.

He is Tony Soprano, only not quite so smart, and lacking Tony’s respect for the law, morals, ethics, loyalty, and refinement.

Once you cut a deal with Trump, he knows you are weak, and he will work you until you are bled dry.

Perfect example is in the episode “Bust Out,” when Tony and his crew strip a company of every last penny in assets.

Similarly, and even worse, Tony and his crew essentially put Nuovo Vesuvio, the restaurant owned by Tony’s childhood friend, out of business; their solution to the problems they caused by not paying for their food was to burn down the restaurant so the owner could collect the insurance.

This is how Trump operates. If you ever cut a deal with him, he owns you, and he will extract every last penny from you, even unto your death.

“ Trump’s not all powerful. The Supreme Court just ruled 9-0 that he has to return someone they sent to prison in El-Salvador.”

They’re just going to ignore the supreme court’s ruling, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it. ;(

Ian W: ‘Odds are he’s got his one term, and his health is bad enough that he may not even make that, though I suspect Vance would in many ways be worse.’

You raise some interesting points. I would differ from you on the odds and here’s why —

Granted, the US is vastly decayed. Still this is a country whose elites in living memory oversaw the assassination of the then-POTUS, his brother the attorney general, and Martin Luther King, as well as between one or two hundred assorted Black Panthers and other resistance members seen as impediments to those elites’ aims.

Going forward, therefore, either we’ll see: —

[A] Trump persist in his wealth-destroying maneuvers, till a ‘medical event,’ say, occurs. Nothing would be easier to explain or arrange — most people have no idea of what’s now possible given the technological advances in targeting specificity in designer pathogens — than an obese, choleric 78-year-old man having a stroke after eating one too many big burgers.

While Vance then becomes president and he’s intelligent enough to be worse, he’s also intelligent enough (unlike his boss) to take the point when, post-medical event, he’s given the Lecture.

[B.] Alternatively, Trump endures in office and persists in his behaviors. In that case, this will be a benchmark that tells us how radically incapable and incompetent US elites have become, compared to the imperial US that once was.

And it will mean the US really has entered an era of weakness comparable to the Yeltsin era in the former Soviet Union.

I’ll second numerous commenters, Trump is just speeding US decline with his Mafia Don games. But there is a bigger context which is the final decline of the US blood-&-soil Universal Imperial project. Thanatos can’t just be forced onto the “Other”, it comes home to roost, like Malcolm X’s chickens, in 1963.

Somebody at Moon of Alabama shared this link, & Mr. Vighi has great insight about EUrope’s suicidal self-destruction urges reflecting fears of the “freedom” from the US, having to act like grown adults (which the subservient European majority is completely incapable following 8 decades of cultural Infantilazation under the Empire’s wings.)

https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/rearmament-the-charade-and-the-game-of-chicken/

A fine excerpt here– “In Hegelian terms, evil is in the eye that perceives evil everywhere around it: we may well descend into barbarism without grasping its underlying causes. After all, the collapse of a civilization is most apparent in its reluctance to engage in self-reflection. And the incompetence of those in power is not an anomaly but the correct image of our historical moment, where Homo economicus falters under the weight of its own rationale. In other words, the structural breakdown of the social contract between labour and capital, which underpins the modern liberal order, can only lead to a rise in institutional cynicism. But, again, there is nothing more ideological today than confusing this cynicism with the root cause of all our troubles. If we merely react with horror to the actions of a psychopathic political elite, we likely do so to distract ourselves from the paralyzing fear of confronting the reasons for the collapse of an entire civilization.”

Indeed, “Honi soit qui mal y pense” goes back to the 14th century, those who cannot psychologically confront (or even acknowledge) their own Shadow (or Other) enter a psychologically free-flowing violent, even homicidal consciousness– something the US Elites have openly and proudly brandished since we “defeated” (sic– they did it to themselves) the USSR.

Do the local ShitLibs oppose endless war and the destruction of the social safety net? I think the majority of us on this site know the answer– here’s a great paragraph from my local ShitLib paper– ”

“Now we throw our Canadian friends and neighbors under the bus. We threaten to abandon the Ukrainians and Europeans and claim we can do business with a career KGB agent and authoritarian who plays Payosa Loco like a harmonica.”

This is from a pro-Mr. Rogers piece,
https://duluthreader.com/articles/2025/04/03/131010-calling-mr-rogers-we-need-you-now

Yeah, I don’t think Fred Rogers would be allying with Banderite Nazis or demanding that the grown “children” from his neighborhood be thrown into WW III. But the Libs can only respond to the raging Id that is Trump with their own equally violent and racist Superego, which they build on a false foundation of “propriety” and “procedure.”

There is a modern equivalent to Fred R. who recently made the news– “Ms. Rachel”. She runs programming for children 1-4 and has 14 million followers on YouTube. So the professional Anti-Semitism Boys who Cry Wolf are whinging that because she deplored the deaths of Palestinian Babies at the hands of the IDF, while also deploring the death of Israeli children, though not at as much link since far fewer Israeli children are targeted and murdered, she is being labelled a “Hamas Supporter” and there are demands that the TrumpCo DoJ “investigate” and censor, possibly jail or deport her. Of course, the likes of “Forrest Johnson” (Fred Rogers’ fan-boy) has never heard of her and wouldn’t defend her in any case.

To Forrest J. the deaths of Russians, like the deaths of Palestinians, are entirely acceptable. It’s only the “blonde and blue-eyed” Ukrainians (including the openly N@zi ones) whose lives have value. The big Dem. rolled-out “Resistance” day last week deliberately refused to mention Palestine (though some Code Pink people snuck in and passed out pro-Palestine flyers) but did demand “Hands Off Nato”, the Endless Wars need to be fought even if they can’t be won, because . . . our investments in Raytheon, Northrup-Grumman, etc. are at least worth saving, & are valued above human life.

The End of Empire is indeed here!! Dig the hole deeper, shovel more lives into it!! We are the good guys, and we prove it by killing constantly and indiscriminately.

“For me to win, someone else has to lose; and,
If someone capitulates to my demands, I can still get more.” Add to that it is OK for me to lie anytime about anything, because I am creating my own reality here. If anyone thinks this attitude is iconic American manhood, all I can say is that it is no wonder that increasing numbers of American women are uninterested in marriage or sex.

Well said, and right on.

Ian, although I’m veering off the initial topic a bit as I am wont to do I think this is why no one will stand up to Trump.

Despite Israel’s high regard for him and his strong connection to Israel’s security needs

Condoleeza Rice said that the security of the world depends on the security of Israel.

This is the same woman who said in her position as national security advisor in the wake of the 9/11 event that ‘no one could have imagined airplanes flying into buildings’ when military planners have in fact included planes both offensively and defenisvely within military planning parameters for decades!

Imcompetent or lying. I choose the latter.

Here is more on ‘Condi’ from Jonathan Michael Goldiner/Azaziah. Don’t be fooled by the ‘anti-semitism’ in the piece. It is by design. Azaziah = ‘Yahweh is Strong’

https://archive.ph/VvVnq#selection-603.0-603.18

Where am I going with this? Rice worked with Colin Powell and another man who is currently a part of the circuit, a one Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson. The Colonel is regularly featured on Dialogue Works with the handsome well-mannered/subtly spoken and well-manicured slavic guy Nima who suddenly appeared on the scene somewhat recently as a host.

Colonel Wilkerson is also on Judge Nap who I seem to have a bit more affinity for probably because of his NJ-NYC Italiany demeanor which I grew up around.

Both do a nice job hosting.

Flood the zone. Inform while confusing but ultimately prepare the mind for what’s to come.

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You’ll remember that Colin Powell went before the UN in 2003 and utterred the words ‘weapons of mass destruction’ about a zillion times thus leading the Israel/Zionist-infiltrated US government of which he was wholly a part to devastate Iraq just as Oded Yinon recommended would be in Israel’s interest all the way back in Feb of 1982.

And please remember that Oded’s ideas certainly weren’t novel in the history of Zionism/Jewish Supremacism.

Yinon’s ‘Zionist Plan For the Middle East’ was published a few months before the Zionist Israeli false flag at the US Marine barracks in what used to be Lebanon but is now greater Israel.

Steven Speilberg of the Bronfman-Bloomberg Mega Group (remember ‘we don’t use mega for that sort of thing’) put out two movies for the plebs to enjoy that summer.

Steve was recently filming here in NJ.

So, the Oded Yinon plan – nothing new in these circles – is eventually adopted into ‘A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm’ in Israel by the same ‘group of insiders’ who led the PNAC ‘Project for a New American Century’ in the US and these same ‘insiders’ were involved at the highest echelons of Bush II in the runup to, during and after the 9/11 event as well as the Iraq war planning which always included the Oded Yinon plan, as outlined famoulsy by General Wesley Clark, former commander of NATO forces in Europe.

It was Clark who said he met a senior military officer in Washington in November 2001 who told him the Bush administration was planning to attack Iraq first before then going on to take out Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan.

The Oded Yinon plan. The Greater Israel Plan.

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You’ll remember that Colin Powell went before the UN in 2003 and utterred the words ‘weapons of mass destruction’ about a zillion times thus leading the Israel/Zionist-infiltrated US government…

Colin has since said he regrets doing so.

Awwww.

Anyway, here’s Colonel Wilkerson quite recently. If you want to take one thing away from all the videos you watch and all the stuff you read that then gets commented on endlessly (yes, I’m guilty!) and articles written and blah blah blah….:

https://youtu.be/4LcjHxKHNfs?t=210

‘I had to sign a non-disclosre agreement when I left government too.’

Yep.

‘The security of the world depends on the security of Israel.’

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What is Israel?

I was curious to know if all of Syria is a part of the ‘Eretz Israel’ plan so I decided to ask Zionist google. Its AI answered the following:

‘No, not all of Syria is considered part of Eretz Israel. While Eretz Israel historically included areas that are now part of Syria, specifically the Golan Heights and some surrounding regions, it does not encompass the entire country.

Eretz Israel, in its various interpretations, generally refers to the region including present-day Israel, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and parts of Lebanon and Jordan. Some interpretations, particularly within certain Zionist ideologies, extend the borders further, but these are not universally accepted.’

What does universal acceptance have to do with raw power?!

At any rate, one needn’t go digging too far into Zionist google in order to come up with a little more. The first two result, in fact, are rather telling:

‘Boundaries of Eretz Yisrael

Eretz Yisrael is an ambiguously defined geographical area.

The most expansive definition—that of the “promise”— extends from “the river of Egypt” (probably Wadi el-Arish, not the Nile) to the Euphrates. This definition encompasses areas including the State of Israel, the West Bank (Judea and Samaria), the Gaza Strip, eastern Sinai, Lebanon and most of Syria and south-eastern Turkey. Many scholars believe that these boundaries reflect the area controlled—or believed to have been controlled—by Kings David and Solomon.

A ‘minimalist’ definition is “from Dan to Beer-Sheva,” which is a literary phrase appearing often in the bible, referring generally to the majority of Israelite occupied land.

An intermediate definition, known in the Jewish tradition as the “borders for those who made the exodus from Egypt עולי מצרים” describes the areas setteled by the tribes under Joshua. This included the territory from the northern Negev through Lebanon and south-western Syria as well as areas east of the Jordan River down to the middle of the Dead Sea.

A last definition, known as “the area sanctified by those who returned from Bablylonian captivity (at the end of the 5th centure B.C.E.) עולי בבל” under the leadership of Ezra the scribe. This comprises the area south of nahal Keziv (by the village Me’ilia) through the Negev but not down to the Red Sea. East of the Jordan River it included areas from the Golan south to Petra.

The various definitions of the boundaries of the Land of Israel are significant in halakha (Jewish law) and this last definition is the one which is applicable to the “commandments dependant upon the Land” which are discussed below…’

https://rossingcenter.org/judaisms/eretz-israel/

And this, which is the most common thing you’ll see if you dare to look. The kindly rabbi begins by asking a simple question that just so happens to involve an ongoing genoiced although you’d never know it from this relgious/spiritual advisor. The rabbi then goes through all the utterly bizarre Judaic Torah laws and what have you and then finishes up by asking everyone to hope that in fact the prophecy of Syria being a part of Eretz srael is in fact fulfilled. This is sick sick stuff but par for the course in these circles:

‘A couple of months ago, when the onflict between Israel and Lebanon erupted, we published an article titled ‘Is Lebanon Part of Israel’s Promised Territory?’ We discusses how Hashem promised Avraham Avinu the Land of Israel, extending from the River of Egypt (which includes Gaza in the south) to the Euphrates River near Turkey in the north. The Torah delineates Lebanon as part of Israel’s borders. This publication followed a previous article posted more than a year ago, titled ‘Is Gaza a Jewish Land? In light of these discussions and the recent events in Syria, today we wish to explore another related question: What is the status of the land of Syria According to the Torah, is Syria considered Jewish land? The question of whether Syria is part of biblical Israel’s territory is a complex one, rooted in the Torah and historical accounts of the ancient Land of Israel.

Various descriptions of Israel’s borders in the Torah and Tanakh suggest that portions of what is now modern-day Syria overlap with the territories described as part of biblical Israel….

…Let us conclude with the encouraging words of Chazal regarding the end of times before the arrival of Mashiach: The Sifrei states: “In the future, Jerusalem will expand in all directions, and the gates of Jerusalem will extend as far as Damascus” (Sifrei Devarim, 1). May these unfolding events mark the beginning of the fulfillment of those prophecies.’

https://archive.ph/qVUfj

Damascus isn’t all of Syria including parts of Turkey but then ‘the Jews’ are apparently still trying to figure things out among themselves.

I wonder what Steve Witkoff believes?

Anyway, never let a good crisis opportunity go to waste (h/t to Rahm whose brother Ezekial doesn’t think we should live past 75).

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Colonel Wilkerson and others including Trita Parsi have said the parties should have direct talks but they go no further. Direct talks make sense, right?

Why does Iran insist on indirect talks? Alon Mizrahi explains in less than five minutes:

https://youtu.be/D1f16PG4DnM?t=754

‘Israel is running everything now in the US. Maybe traffic lights too. I don’t know.

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/04/09/aipac-access-trump-natsec-officials-leaked/

https://www.mintpressnews.com/revealed-israel-unit-8200-spies-american-media/288457/

https://archive.ph/pXQyc#selection-1515.0-1519.194

They create policy across the board and they control the narrative and Trump knows that much even if there is nothing else in the world he knows.

And, to add insult to that injury and just for assurance’s sake:

‘I’ve postulated there’s something dark about this…It can’t just be about previous donations. Because eating bread is soon forgotten…’

https://youtu.be/HQ6GiSRhPDQ?t=2252

https://youtu.be/rq2QFvWFUC0?t=3739

I imagine this is why it’s proving so difficult to handle ‘Trump’s threats.’ It’s because these threats and actions are much deeeper than the personage of Trump. Trump is the tool for a much larger agenda.

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https://youtu.be/Fd2_XNuujDU?t=238

https://youtu.be/Fd2_XNuujDU?t=599

[Immediately previous to this Mearsheimer said that Netanyahu’s biggest obstacle isn’t the Palestinians it’s the Israelis. This isn’t because the Isrealis give a flying you know what about Palestinians. Netanyahu absolutely would not announce this to the Israeli public if the plans weren’t ready to go. The Libyan option or the military option? They are ultimately one and the same.

And the rabbis keep pontificating….

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Pair Jeffrey Sachs’ ‘War and Tariffs’ with Gus Savage’s speech on AIPAC back in 1990 – well before they had the power they have now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37B0dCG2PDg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQP8V-kZ2EQ