Earlier today I responded to a comment asking if Armenia and Georgia are next after the Ukraine.
I wrote: “Armenia has long been a Russian client state. They will remain one for the foreseeable future. Georgia is divided. When Georgia attacked Russian positions in South Ossetia in 2008 both Russian forces in and around South Ossetia and jointly with Abkhazian forces, Russia occupied Zugdidi, Gori, Poti and Senaki and the Abkhaz captured the Kodori Gorge. Through these actions Russia effectively split Georgia into three parts and there will be no Georgian admission into NATO. In fact, my buddy Mamuka who lives in Tbilisi, Georgia told me earlier this year, “we just have to make our peace with our giant neighbor to the north, like Mexico has made its peace with the USA.” He’s not wrong.”
Artin DerSimonian echoes, albeit much more eloquently and with more convincing evidence and arguments, exactly what I said: “While Georgia has condemned Russia’s actions in Ukraine at international fora and has provided humanitarian aid to Kyiv, Tbilisi has also reopened direct flights with Russia, refused to adopt European sanctions (though generally restricting sanctions-busting trade) or supply arms to Ukraine, and increased its bilateral trade turnover. While some have been understanding of Georgia’s uniquely challenging position amid the war in Ukraine, others have been less forgiving and more circumspect of the underlying motivations of the ruling party’s actions.”
You can read his full article here. It is an outstanding piece of analysis, reminiscent of the arguments I had with Georgians when I visited the country in 2003. It was as clear as a window pane that Georgia must inevitably find an accomodation with its giant neighbor to the North, just as Mexico has done with the United States. Right or wrong, a giant neighbor next door is an ugly reality that must be faced honestly.
As DerSimonian writes, “If that initial strategy falls short of achieving our desired outcomes, then our next step ought to be adjusting our existing policies to fit the realities that develop beyond our borders without unnecessarily alienating those whom we seek to influence.”
It’s wonderful to see at least one nation in the post-Soviet space acting with some strategic and diplomatic maturity. That it is the Georgians is even better. I hope they prosper and solve their dreadful seperatist issues.
Tallifer
Georgia is just another former Soviet colony whose stark choice is between European prosperity and freedom, like that which Poland, Czecho and the Baltic states have chosen, and Russian servitude, poverty, corruption and dictatorship like that which Belarus and the rebels in the Donetsk and Ossetia have chosen.
Tallifer
Edit: the current Georgian government and its dupes prefer dreams of Soviet greatness and political realities of oligarchic power under Russian protection. whereas the street prefers freedom and Europe.
Tallifer
Furthermore: https://www.politico.eu/article/moldova-georgia-elections-eu-membership-referendum-russian-influence-kremlin-bribes-disinformation/
Oakchair
Georgia is just another former Soviet colony whose choice is between European prosperity
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Exhibit 1: Italy which has an economy that has barely grown at all in the last 30 years.
Exhibit 2: Greece which is poorer now than it was 20 years ago.
Exhibit 3: Ukraine which in 10 years children in Africa will be saying, “At least we aren’t in Ukraine.”
War is peace
Recession is prosperity
Slavery is freedom
Industry is corruption
Ignorance is strength
Unemployment is work
—Eurozone campaign pamphlet circa 2025
Nate Wilcox
@SPK what do you make of the recurrent color revolution attempts in Georgia?
BC Nurse Prof
“I wrote: “Armenia has long been a Russian client state. They will remain one for the foreseeable future.”
No.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2024/03/armenia-freezes-participation-in-collective-security-treaty-organization-further-poisoning-ties-with-russia.html
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/09/what-the-fighting-between-armenia-and-azerbaijan-is-really-about-and-why-its-likely-to-get-worse.html
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/09/what-the-fighting-between-armenia-and-azerbaijan-is-really-about-and-why-its-likely-to-get-worse.html
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2024/10/will-the-conflicts-in-the-middle-east-spill-over-into-the-caucasus-part-2-what-are-the-us-and-turkiye-up-to.html
BC Nurse Prof
Two of the above links are the same. Sorry, I meant to add this one:
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/10/russia-accuses-west-of-trying-to-replicate-ukraine-strategy-in-armenia.html