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Update: minority Liberal government which will require help from the NDP to survive non confidence motions. Hopefully the NDP will be smart and tough enough to hold out for electoral reform in exchange.
The left-center NDP is being slaughtered and seems likely to lose its official party status.
Five months ago I would have said, and did say, that the Conservatives would form the next government, with Poilievre (a Trump figure) as Prime Minister.
Fortunately, Trump truly is a Christ-like figure, and raised the Liberal party from the dead. Poilievre mishandled Trump’s threats, saying that Trump had a point and so on. Living in an right wing echo chamber he thought that Canadians aren’t patriotic, and most are. This was an unforced error. Ontario Premier Ford did the opposite: he ran against Trump, called a surprise election and won handily. I despise Ford, but he’s a smart politician. Poilievre, on the other hand, is just an attack dog, and a true believer in Trumpist style right wing politics.
This isn’t to say I like the Liberals or Carney. Carney has the dubious honor of haveing beeen in charge of Canada and Britain’s central bank, and is the only central banker to blow housing bubbles in two countries. As for the Liberals, they were a terrible government and the only good things they did were forced on them by the NDP, whose support they needed to stay in government.
Trudeau’s liberals let in record numbers of immigrants and the result was massive increases in rent and a smother of wage gains.
The mistake that Canadian Conservative voters made, which Trump saved Canada from, was the assumption that Poilievre would be better. He would have been far, far worse. There was even talk of creating a Canadian “DOGE.”
Canada, much like America, needs a proportional vote system, so that the two and a half party monopoly can be broken up and a Trump-like figure locked out of government unless they can achieve a genuine majority.
We’ll see how Carney does. Though I don’t like his record, he has said some very sensible things about re-industrialization in Canada, including proper vertical integration. There’s almost no mineral resource Canada doesn’t have, if we want we can easily re-industrialize. He’s also talked some sense about the housing market.
Whether he carries thru remains to be seen. He won’t be fantastically successful, he’s still a neoliberal and committed to policies like low taxes on the rich, but as neoliberals go, he may turn out not too bad.
Fingers crossed.
Update 1: Looking like Poilievre may lose his own riding. For context, Poilievre is an MP in Ottawa, Canada’s capital, where the largest employer is the Federal government. Poilievre said he would gut the civil service and even threatened to DOGE it. Truly in the running for stupidest politician in the world.
mago
“Fingers crossed” is all we’ve got.
Danfmto
With no NDP it’s going to be a terrible parliament for Palestinians. Only hope is that the Libs need the NDP for 172 seats.
different clue
The better the Liberals and Carney do, the more I hope that in his speech he makes a special point of specially thanking Donald Trump for providing Canada the inspiration needed to elect the Liberals.
It would be the ultimate ” TrumpTroll” and might drive Trump viciously crazy enough to make him decompensate on live TV to the point that an Insiders’ Cabal decides that ” the time has come” to solve “our little problem”.
Perhaps 50-80 million Blue Team members can all go on a National Consumption Slowdown to ” Make America Unprofitable” to the point where elements of the Business Community feel motivated to quietly take the Republican officeholders behind closed doors and quietly terrify them into “doing the right thing”.
Warvigilent
Hopefully the Island and Vancouver add some more ndp seats. They kept the liberals in line enough not to throw everything away to the cons . Poliev should have never been so popular , the very definition of effete politician who has never done anything else. Its unbelievable that so many working class people love him, fucking insane. He was on the island and visited a construction site and apparently the workers emptied the building to go see him. Bloody morons the lot of them, go cheer the suit who will sell you and your children’s future to the rich.
Failed Scholar
Carney AKA Mr. Housing Bubble is going to be an absolute sh*t PM, almost certainly. Carney literally has Mark Wiseman as his campaign chair (Century Initiative Founder and leader) https://www.ipolitics.ca/2025/03/20/carney-adds-century-initiative-co-founder-to-canada-u-s-council/ so that should tell you all you need to know about his immigration policies. And if that wasn’t bad enough, there is Sean Fraser, Trudeau’s Immigration minister and later housing minister. This POS had slunk away and announced he wouldn’t seek re-election “for family reasons” because of the absolute shit job he and his boss did on those files, and it was Carney apparently who ‘asked Fraser to reconsider’. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sean-fraser-reelection-1.7492503 Imagine that. Maybe Carney can make him immigration minister again? They can crank up the numbers to 5 million a year, imagine the GEEEEDEEEPEEEEE Ian! Our bankster overlords are probably calculating right now how many they need to triple housing prices one more time, should be a grand olde time.
It’s absolutely mind-boggling to me that after so many years of eating Liberal sh*t, we somehow get yet another Lib government with a potentially even more neoshitlib leader at the helm this time. Amazing. “Democracy”, folks, ain’t it grand?
And the most retarded part in all this is, the NDP had to fucking commit suicide to keep an even shittier Con “””leader””” out of office. If the NDP ever even thinks about forming coalitions with the ShitLib party of Canada again (assuming the NDP even survives mind you), electoral reform needs to be front and center policy #1, #2, and #3, no exceptions. I trust they will sear that lesson into their brains forever after tonight.
NR
As I recall, the Conservatives had a 25 point lead in the polls not terribly long ago. It’s amazing how quickly Trump’s rhetoric turned the tide in favor of the Liberals.
It’ll be interesting to see if the same thing happens in Australia this weekend. The conservative opposition was favored to win there, but Labor has been trying to tie them to Trump, and I’ve seen reports that it’s been working. We’ll find out soon.
someofparts
Pleased to see that our bad example actually did some good. As things get even worse down here, let’s hope it provides even greater incentives to stay on track and shun the crazies. You should offer to let the northern parts of the US become Canadian provinces.
Failed Scholar
My apologies, I was wrong about Carney’s campaign chair being Wiseman (although those two are clearly buddy buddy enough to be concerned). Carney’s campaign director appears to be Trudeau man Tom Pitfield. The dangers of ranting too fast people!
In any case, what I mentioned stands and I think his goals will still be the same, as pumping the econ numbers with bodies (and crushing labour power) is the overall goal of these people and always will be despite whatever lies and BS they feed us. It’s their favourite cheat code, whether through deliberate policy or the kind of “awww shucks we let in another bajillion” method they use in the Disunited States and Not So Great Britain.
Failed Scholar
@NR
The Conservative’s lead back in January was 27 points ahead of the Liberals(!!!), to give you some idea of the epic fumble: https://nanos.co/conservatives-47-liberals-20-ndp-18-canadians-increasingly-focused-on-jobs-the-economy-nanos/