Losing Roe And The New Dred Scott

“Conservative s… will go after gay marriage, school integration, teaching evolution in schools and eventually mixed raced marriages.” None of which matter to the ruling elites, who only care about money and power.

Social issues are for suckers. Yes, blacks should be able to drink at public water fountains, but it’s far more important that blacks be ECONOMICALLY equal to whites. Marriage is a religious ceremony that government should not be involved in. Southern schools are more segregated now than they were in the ’60s because white racists either relocated to lily white parts of the country or else sent their kids to “segregation academies.” Repeat, SOCIAL ISSUES ARE FOR SUCKERS. The elites use social issues to keep the common people divided.

There are a handful of Republicans who sincerely believe in their social issues, but most only go along with identity politics because it is the price of admission to power.

What to do? If you live in a state that has a ballot referendum then you should put abortion on the ballot. Polls show that even red state populations support abortion.

The national government of the U.S. is hopelessly corrupt and there is no fix on the horizon short of a strong man riding in on a white horse. Historically, major change has only come about because of war or catastrophe. I had thought that the covid pandemic would be enough of a catastrophe to wake America up, but no, America has gone back to sleep.

Relevant for this post, from Daily Kos of all places, the Senate unanimously voted last night to extend police protection to the immediate families of Supreme Court members.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/5/9/2097065/-Protesting-in-front-of-a-public-figure-s-house-can-have-unintended-premises-and-consequences

I don’t know what I think about this. On the one hand, violence and the threat of violence has been very effective for right-wingers (things like targeting abortion providers, etc.) On the other hand, sometimes this can backfire in a big way, like how the murder of Emmett Till in the 50s gave a big boost to the civil rights movement. It’s a dangerous game no matter how you slice it.

I will say, though, that it’s very telling the Senate acted so fast on this given that they’ve consistently refused to pass protections for abortion providers.

There was a time when Democrat Liberals still had a measure of power or at least some access to usable power. But they believed in subhuman pacifist subhumanism. (I was raised pacifist and I learned in person just how subhuman and subhumanizing pacifism really is. And that is not something I debate about anymore with subhuman pacifist subhumans.)

So they very carefully abjured the pursuit and use of power till they had no power left. They kept turning the other cheek until they ran out of other cheeks to turn. I speak of the Democrat Liberal true believers and followers, not the cynical Inner Party manipulators who farmed and ranched those true believing followers for their own Inner Party fun and profit.

I think it was the true believing followers and the well-intended Outer Party cadres that Hunter S. Thompson had in mind when he finally wrote . . . . ” Jesus Christ! I’ve gone as far as I can with these god-damned waterheads.”

So for now, probortionism will have to retreat to some legal probortion states. The people of those states would be advised to legalize abortion good and hard in those states and start taxing themselves enough to raise, train, build and supply probortion state armies powerful enough to deter Federal Anti-abortion enforcement invasion-occupation forces. Ideally, they would also begin turning their states into separate survival fortress economies, steadily reducing and then severing economic contact with the antibortion states.

They should also institute systems for refusing abortion services to residents of antibortion states. Legal abortion should be a privilege restricted to the residents of states which are prepared to support legal abortion within their own borders, including being prepared to apply the defensive violence needed to protect their probortion laws from antibortion-state aggression.

Present or potential abortion seekers or supporters within the antibortion states will have to be forced to know that their only hope for abortion rights will be to either emigrate to a probortion state and become a citizen there ( as slaves used to try doing from the slavery states) . . . . or to wage and win a political or physical civil war against the antibortion forces of their own antibortion states. The probortion states will have to force that issue by sealing their abortion provision systems against abortion tourists from the antibortion states. And that means most-of-all denying abortion access to the millionaire and billionaire abortion-seekers from the antibortion states.

And yes, for purely pragmatic reasons, Mexico and Canada will probably not offer an abortion tourism alternative to abortion seekers from the Republic of Gilead States of America.

People in the antibortion states who want legal abortion access inside their own states might well form a Legal Abortion Party to pursue abortion legalization through political pathways, if there are any. They would be well advised to form very effective heavily armed militias to protect themselves and eachother from Christian Satanist violence from their fellow antibortion state citizens. If they form physical party offices with real-world locations and addresses, these offices should be built as fortresses and fortifications, survivable, defensible, and able to launch hyper-violent raids from if/when the time comes. Something else the Christian Satanists will force all the members of such a party to think about is . . . how many assassinations a Legal Abortion Party is prepared to absorb before it either decides to retaliate massively in order to survive as a party, , or to disband quietly in hopes of being allowed to survive as humble defeated individuals. I merely offer that as some cautious survival advice for them.

They’re ratcheting up the chaos. For power. Ultimate. Total.

Lucky us.

Lo and behold, today I ran across this in Firefox Pocket:

“The Woman Who Killed Roe: Marjorie Dannenfelser’s single-minded pursuit of an end to abortion.”

https://www.thecut.com/article/marjorie-dannenfelser-abortion-roe-v-wade.html?position=4&utm_medium=email&utm_source=pocket_hits&utm_campaign=POCKET_HITS-EN-RECS-2022_05_10&sponsored=0

It was from Mollohan that Dannenfelser learned what she considers “one of the most important lessons” in politics: There can be no hesitation in the exercise of political power. “If you shoot a bear,” he told her, “you have to kill it.” Two decades later, in 2010, Dannenfelser was the head of the Susan B. Anthony List, a group that works exclusively to elect anti-abortion legislators. That was the year Mollohan, now a 14-term congressman with impeccable anti-abortion credentials, voted in a way that she considered objectionable. He believed Obamacare effectively excluded federally funded abortions; she did not feel Obama’s executive order to this effect was reliable. After he voted for the bill, she directed her PAC to spend $78,000 against Mollohan, running radio ads that said, “Alan Mollohan betrayed us and voted to spend our federal dollars … on abortions,” though this was at best unclear. The congressman lost his 14th bid for reelection. If you shoot a bear, you have to kill it.

This is a story Dannenfelser does not hesitate to tell. She also enjoys being called the “velvet hammer.” Her 2020 book is called Life Is Winning, but it is less about the winningness of life than about the losingness of various people who failed to align themselves with her mission. The list of those alive and dead with whom Dannenfelser is utterly exasperated includes John McCain, George W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan. All of them, she says, “had been given on a national stage many opportunities to authentically witness to the depravity and extremism of abortion” and had failed to do so. Bob Dole neglected to get sufficiently excited about banning an abortion procedure called intact dilation and extraction; what a shame it was that “after leaving one of his most potent issues on the sidelines,” he “lost in a landslide.” There is the “muddled thinking and incomprehensible musing” of Justice Anthony Kennedy; the failure of Newt Gingrich to even name-check abortion in his Contract for America; and Sarah Palin, “who arrived with great hope but left with great disappointment” after failing to show up for a conference call Dannenfelser had organized. Dannenfelser is disappointed in Senator Ted Cruz, former governor John Kasich, former governor Scott Walker, and former congressman Bart Stupak, to whom she promised an anti-abortion award and then dramatically rescinded the offer. There is the grief she professes to feel at having to campaign against more than a dozen stalwart anti-abortion legislators who voted for the Affordable Care Act, including one who sued her for lying about him in his district. There is the supremely exasperating Mitt Romney, who had a “natural aversion to the abortion issue” but appeared to have captured the heart of conservative columnist Jennifer Rubin, whose “overwrought defenses of Romney” resembled those of a “lovesick schoolgirl.” Dannenfelser has pretty much had it with Renee Ellmers, to whom SBA List gave $17,000 but who subsequently “threw tantrums” over a bill requiring victims of rape to report that rape to authorities to obtain an abortion after 20 weeks.

I remember when Trump kept talking about building that wall. The unchallenged assumption was always that we needed a wall to keep out the dispossessed from south of the border. Even then I found myself wondering if the walls presumably being built to keep “them” out might, sooner than we imagine, be in place to keep us in.

A couple of quick (for me, anyway) observations– 1. One of the rare times I disagree with Che Pasa, I don’t think this is entirely deliberate and to “generate chaos.” As many have observed, the dog caught the car, now let’s see the outcome. However, let’s also concede that the insane Opus Dei-Federalist crew were incredibly disciplined and built to this “victory” over years, while the Dimmies did their usual pretend Washington Generals’ opposition kayfabe. Lots of unintended consequences no doubt . . . 2. Related, as to Astrid’s point I largely agree. If women in this country go along with the Rapist Daddy party’s fanaticism and fold . . . I wish I could expect better, but ‘Muricans are so dumb, ahistorical and supine they may. I recall pointing out to a friend that Trump is an idiot, but had nowhere near the body count of li’l Dubya in the Mideast, and she very rightly reminded me that he had 800K covid deaths, he killed more Americans. Well, point taken, & I guess some of them (Herman Cain is an obvious case) asked to be culled, so there’s that. 3. The point somebody made that the Dimmies always played the weakest, lamest most right wing “defense” of women’s bodily autonomy is clear, Hillary had to scold about how Abortion should be “safe, legal & RARE”, the last being the point, and as another anti-sex center-rightist, Lord (as Atrios called him) William Saletan of “liberal” Slate said HRC clearly meant by rare, “never”– but I won’t share the link to that, here’s one to Katha Pollitt taking squeamish Saletan down (he thinks women’s vajajajay’s are gross, btw, & wrote several columns about wanting to have anal sex)–https://www.salon.com/2006/02/01/pollitt_and_saletan/ 4. Lastly, Ian’s 100% correct about the fact that Rights must be fought for, they are not “given” by our uncaring Elites (except to themselves, obviously, since they are “exceptional,” as is Imperial America.) Do Americans have it in them to fight the coming fascist wave? With 30% right wing nuts, 40% sappy Dimmie voting “waterheads” (as diff clue calls them) & only 20% (if that) of people who actually respect humanity and freedom, I am not particularly hopeful. It’ll get worse before it gets better, the question is only how fast and whether the race back to Bronze Age ignorance levels by the majority will be quick or a drawn out fight.

18 U.S. Code § 1507: Obstruction of Justice by Picketing or Parading

“Whoever, with the intent of interfering with, obstructing, or impeding the administration of justice, or with the intent of influencing any judge, juror, witness, or court officer, in the discharge of his duty, pickets or parades in or near a building housing a court of the United States, or in or near a building or residence occupied or used by such judge, juror, witness, or court officer, or with such intent uses any sound-truck or similar device or resorts to any other demonstration in or near any such building or residence, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.”

I’m a lifelong atheist so I don’t particularly care much about the abortion so-called “right” either way. However, it is criminal for the pro-choice women to gather outside the residences of justices and yell and scream and should to intimidate the justices. What they are clearly trying to do is to intimidate the supreme court judges into changing their decision, and that is absolutely criminal and illegal. IMO they all should be arrested, fined and sent to prison for a year, but that is not gonna happen because those protestors have a superpower call the pussy pass.

Pro-abortion anti-fur versus pro-life anti-poor. God’s judgment on both their houses.

To the commenter who wrote that this will lead to fewer men getting sex, I wish that were the only repercussion! If that were the case, men would not want to touch abortion rights. This will lead to more back alley abortions, foster children, and violence against women and unwanted children. This will set back disadvantaged populations and otherwise upwardly mobile women. Rich people will continue to be able to bypass rules and laws as they have always done. I don’t know if this is enough to wake up Americans. Over a million Americans have died of Covid and millions more affected with long hauler symptoms, but I wonder where are all of these people and their family members are to demand justice or change in how our leaders are dealing with this pandemic. If Covid has not woken up Americans then abortion laws won’t.

Dan Lynch:

“The national government of the U.S. is hopelessly corrupt and there is no fix on the horizon short of a strong man riding in on a white horse. Historically, major change has only come about because of war or catastrophe.”

Even if we got the reincarnation of FDR for president, it would not be enough these days. Turns out that it costs big money to be a significant player on a Congressional committee. The cost varies depending on the importance of the position. To be head of the Ways & Means committee, the cost starts at a million dollars paid to, I guess, the DCCC.

As far as having a catastrophe to cause change, it looks like the Democrats are working hard to make that happen. The objective seems to be to keep provoking the Russians until we have an excuse to start WWIII. If Finland joins NATO, bend over and kiss your a** goodbye.

Stewart M:

“like Putin’s Russia–infrastructure crumbling even more, talent and scientists and those with skills fleeing the country, and the population aging and declining, while the looting of the elites is only restrained by their loyalty or lack thereof to the Big Boss.”

Everything you said in your posts was, as usual, well worth reading. The sentence I copied above is the exception. I would recommend the podcasts from The Duran (which I learned about from Astrid) as a good place to start getting better info about Russia. Also Scott Ritter and Gilbert Doctorow.

@K T Chong,

Since the same is equally true for women protesters in favor of rescinding Roe v Wade, I await your call to show equal consistency in calling for the same law to be used equally on them as well.

Whether any other readers await the same show of consistency on your part is not for me to say, of course.

NR,

If that’s the case, then yes, then those SCOTUS assholes have what’s coming to them. Loud death metal on repeat for the rest of their lives and after life. They are not entitled to any protection that they deprive from others and I wish the worst for them, personally.

They already stripped any substantive and even procedural due process protections that used to be inviolable in the last 25 years. There’s a place for drawing the line to protect ourselves but if they already rammed through the line. F them all.