Remember 9/11, When America Went Mad

The collapse that people perceive around themselves often is a telltale sign of the slow ruin of their own lives. While those personal artifacts that they desperately cling to crumble away the warnings of societal doom become even more severe. Until people insist that everything is going to hell because it is self-justifying, allowing them to avoid owning their lives.

Misery loves company. Disembodied voices that tell us how right we are. And we\’ll do anything to keep the stream of affirmation going.

If you cannot spot the useful idiot… boo, it is probably you. You have been warned.

Adios.

Was this inspired by Krugman’s ridiculous tweet about how, “Overall, Americans took 9/11 pretty calmly”? Because I, too, remember 9/11 as The Day America Went Insane and Never Recovered. Not that it was “great” before then, but it really started the tightening of the death spiral.

Bin Laden denied the 9/11 attacks were his doing/responsibility. What kind of terrorist denies one of his greatest achievements to date? No terrorist worth his salt which belies the claim Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were capable of pulling off 9/11. Either way you look at it, Osama and Al Qaeda did not plan and execute 9/11. Who did is anyone’s guess and a rabbit hole not worth exploring.

https://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/

Anyway, as I’ve said, Trump Trumps bin Laden and Al Qaeda. They are rank amateurs by comparison. Odonald bin Trump is the supreme bioterrorist. Maybe one day soon he will also be the supreme nuclear terrorist. We’ll see.

The various media outlets are talking about how brave everyone was that day. I guess bravery died that day. Where is the bravery now? Soon enough, Odonald bin Trump will have murdered over 200,000 Americans in cold, torturous blood and there is a not a brave soul to be found. The entire American Establishment has stood down and by and watched him do it and not only have they stood down, but they’ve gotten wealthier for it.

By January, over 3,000 Americans per day will perish from the pandemic. That’s a 9/11 per day and the person responsible, the Terrorist In Chief, is not only at large and still will be at large then, but he’s actually the President of the United States — the most powerful position in the world, admittedly.

New York City came back from 9/11. It will not come back from Odonald bin Laden and the perpetual effects of his COVFEFE-19 virus.

During a genuine collapse, people will be requiired to take responsibility for themselves because the Nanny State will eventually not be there to cater to their every need, whim, and comfort.

And when that happens, all the precious snowflakes will realize that Mother Nature does not believe that they are entitled to anything…

Like I’ve been saying, 2020 is 1984. Let’s make it 1917 instead.

https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/osama-bin-ladens-niece-is-a-trump-supporter-who-has-also-backed-the-qanon-conspiracy-theory-movement/articleshow/77963613.cms

“I have been a supporter of President Trump since he announced he was running in the early days of 2015. I have watched from afar and I admire this man’s resolve,” she said. “He must be reelected … It’s vital not only for the future of America, but western civilization as a whole.” Noor bin Laden (who loves QAnon fyi)

Have you noticed the dearth of terrorist attacks in the last couple of years? The Terrorist In Chief has sucked all the terrorist oxygen out of the room, or out of the biosphere I should say. He is Al Qaeda’s man in the White House. No need for puny, crude-and-simple-by-comparison terrorist attacks when you have your man Odonald bin Laden murdering hundreds of thousands, soon to be millions, of Americans in cold blood at will and you get the rubes to vote for their own murder.

@Ian Welsh

Agreed, bankers are parasites.
So are socialists.

The statistic is likely 60% of vertebrates (not mammals). It is an average across sampled species (one species, one vote) not total population change.

Just watched this video from Jimmy Dore:

Why War Mongers Hate TRUMP!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9zF3za5n0M

I swear this is all going to turn me into a Freudian! We’ve had other terrorist actions, from the Oklahoma City bombing to the cascade of school shootings. A few days of thoughts and prayers take care of those. Every month a 9/11 count of Americans die for lack of medical insurance, with a bonus death month each year. Politicians’ vows to “keep us safe” apparently count only when they can blow up stuff for profit. George W. Bush was a fine president who “kept us safe”–I don’t have a clue how that one slips past us. It’s about fantasy rather than reality.

I’m left with the contemplation of the biggest phallic symbol in the country’s biggest city housing business offices that made the country’s richest men just collapsing when the little brown foreign men hit them. For our betters, it’s the stuff of nightmares made real.

And js, who does home invasions of other peoples homes when they’re supposed to be nannying at my house.

The Lawyers Committee For 9/11 Inquiry is hosting a Zoom conference this Sunday, September 13, from 3-6 PM EST. Speakers include Bill Binney, George McGovern, Francis Boyle, and Barbara Honneger. Yes, the same Barbara Honneger who overheard CIA director Bill Casey say “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

https://www.lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/lawyers-9-11-anniversary-event-september-2020/

Sorry, I forgot to mention the Lawyers Committee conference is titled:

Recognizing and Pushing Back the Post 9/11 Police State

Saddam was not secular, enforced Sharia Law in civil matters, banned anything that was outright blasphemy against Islam, and had religious police cutting people’s hands off for stealing as well as general morality enforcement.

Qaddafi’s Libya was a far more massive Human Trafficking Hub than it is today and he was not in any way ‘Secular’ and like Saddam, banned anything outright blasphemous.

Let’s at least get the facts straight please. America being a sinner does not make these men Saints.

Russ Feingold was my senator, and was re-elected in 2004 after voting against the Patriot Act. The Obama-backlash midterms in 2010 is what got him.

It really did happen that way.

I tend to believe that better leadership might have taken the country in a better direction, but the already far-advanced decadence of American politics precluded such a possibility.

The madness was a symptom of the social and political pathologies set in motion in the 1970s and only opposed weakly and ineffectually.

I remember realizing within a very few days that the Bush Administration was going to war against Saddam Hussein. The propaganda narrative was fully prepared to make that a plausible if not strictly logical course of action, so it hardly took any genius on my part to see it coming — it was practically in the air we breathed. There were two 9/11 conspiracies: Osama Bin Laden’s Al Qaeda nurtured one; the other was called, Project for a New American Century, and it was peopled by the worst sorts of neocon fools and liars.

A wiser leadership in the West would have taken the occasion of Soviet collapse as both an opportunity to close down the military-industrial complex and as a forewarning. I remember reading Paul Kennedy’s The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers circa 1988 and thinking surely people will understand that this time should be different.

Ian’s essay here focuses attention the essential immorality infecting the American People, as well it should. More than inexcusable ignorance and stupidity are involved. A political culture flooded with feckless manipulation is run by a parasitic elite, but it finds fertile ground and a credulous audience in a passive, disorganized morally disjointed populace.

I occasionally get it into my head to challenge a meme floating thru the ether and the response I typically get in meat space is even stupider than I find online. (I do not venture far online — Crooked Timber is about the worst I can stomach; LGM for comedic styling even the Onion fails to match.) QAnon is weird, but Obama murdered people and nothing they fantasize is really any weirder or more unfounded than the meme that Joe Biden is a decent, empathetic fellow.

Years ago, I was one of those people protesting to the Public Editor of the NY Times against the late columnist William Safire promoting the clearly false notion of a connection between Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 hijackers. He would barely concede that Safire’s hyperbolic claims were unfounded in any but the wispiest speculative smoke, but not that it mattered. Now, of course, we have so-called fact-checkers and the facts mean even less to those guys.

Years ago a famous book of philosophy argued that bull shit was the product not of a will to deceive with falsehood, but rather a fundamental disregard for the value of truth. And, that permeates elite American political culture — the rough, complicated, nuanced, dubious, uncertain truth does not matter. I argued against Russiagate online and in meat space and the reaction — in real life it could be fierce enough to nearly justify psychiatric treatment — and the absolute refusal of many in elite public life as politicians or journalists to acknowledge how thin the case was, was astonishing to me.

I think most Americans are completely disengaged from politics. They are like the dogs in a Far Side cartoon, hearing only a very few words in the babble. The dogs do not really understand language though they learn words and tone and some gestures. Americans understand natural language but not the nonsense spoken by politicians and journalists. Politicians can give idiotic speeches and journalists will give a theatre review highlighting the fashion statement made by what she wore.

Still, how much does it take to understand perpetual war is bad public policy? Really is that something only understood by those of us inhabiting the Putin-leaning left (I really should stop reading Crooked Timber)?

Really, the only explanaton, the only excuse I can offer is there is nothing we can do. Voting does no good, if no capable or sincere leader can be found (or more likely, can survive). If we are not organized enough to vote, we really are not organized for war. Life during a civil war among the self-owned with no nanny state to handle logistics truly would be nasty, brutish and short. Maybe what we deserve for losing the republic to this mess of credentialed “winners”.

Gee, has it really been that long? Hard to believe. I was in Seattle sleeping in a hotel room across the street from the central library that was being demolished in preparation for the new one that still stands. I was awakened at about 5:50am by sirens outside and what sounded like the demo crew getting to work. Seemed early for that sort of thing. I got up bleary-eyed and looked out the window. Didn’t really see anything out of the ordinary, but the siren continued wail and demolition sounds periodically pounded away. It was cloudy/foggy out.

I did my morning wash-up and at about 6:00am I turned on the television. Saw something I couldn’t even imagine — one of the World Trade Center towers was burning; commentators were befuddled, said something about a plane hitting the tower, or that’s what they thought; as they were jabbering, something hit the other tower and a huge explosion burst out of the side. The commentators were in shock, as was I. W.T. A. F?

Another plane. This wasn’t a tragic accident. It was an attack. Half an hour or so later word came that something had hit the Pentagon. There were casualties and a large fire.

I couldn’t believe what I was witnessing. Nor, I think, could most people who were aware of it early on. It seemed inconceivable. Who would do such a thing? Why?

There was a report of another plane crashing in Pennsylvania, possibly headed to DC. I called the office where I was supposed to work that day and asked whether we were still scheduled to come in. Yeah, no. Yes come in. No, we weren’t going to be doing much work. Instead, we sat and watched on the big screen what every one else was seeing on their TeeVees and tried to figure out what to do. Word came from HQ that we were free to go, but because we had traveled to Seattle from California and all over the West, we’d have a hard time getting back because flights were grounded. I found a rental car at Alamo and with a colleague started the long drive home the next day.

The immediate shock didn’t lift for more than a week, and I don’t think it’s entirely gone even now.

Everything changed after 9/11/2001, and not for the better. The assassination of President Kennedy changed things, as did the 1968 assassinations. This was an order of magnitude greater a change, yet we were expected to just accept it, go on as if nothing were that much different, and most people did.

Now we’re living through an even greater paradigm shift, and no one is saying “carry on” as if everything will be back to normal shortly. No, it won’t.

In a few months or years we won’t even recognize where we are and few will understand or care how we got there.

Be careful Plague. You’re bringing up truths even many here can’t fathom.

@Mikey Ruppert,

Worst to suffer, I hope, among the special snowflakes who will discover that Nature does not owe them a living . . . will be the ManMade Global Warming Denialists, focusing most of all on the upper-class organizers of Denialism and their well-paid hasbarists.

Didn\’t Sanders also oppose the Patriot Act?

Jimmy Dore’s latest.

Haha – you think voting Dem will change anything?
Punked indeed!

Sad that a comedian has to lay it bare for us to see it all so clearly.
But I guess that’s always been the way: Carlin, Hicks etc.

Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js5t_loxiEw

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/04/us/a-trainee-noted-for-incompetence.html

Mr. Hanjour, who investigators contend piloted the airliner that crashed into the Pentagon, was reported to the aviation agency in February 2001 after instructors at his flight school in Phoenix had found his piloting skills so shoddy and his grasp of English so inadequate that they questioned whether his pilot’s license was genuine.

So Plague, are you speaking as al-Qaeda’s flight manager or just out your a–? You make statements with no citation until you are called on it. You then cite what is apparently one NYT article which questions Hanjour’s skills but as far as I can tell doesn’t say what you say: that he couldn’t run the plane into the ground.

Extended quotes, the keyboard warrior’s tool of choice.

I’d be more swayed by proof of an ATP, relevant type ratings and experience as a flight instructor.

There is a new 2020 edition of Calling Out Bravo-7, by Firefighters for 9/11 Truth. Also, Colorado 911 Truth will be hosting a conversation with Firefighters for 911 Truth tomorrow. More info on both can be found here:

http://www.scientistsfor911truth.com/

Continuing, “SEVEN” is a documentary about the extraordinary conclusions of the University of Alaska Fairbanks study on the destruction of World Trade Center Building 7 and the epic failure of our institutions to tell the truth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL9CCZFuDFY

Thousands of architects, engineers, scientists, former and current military and intelligence personnel.

Conspiracists all, because Hugh said so.

Hugh, WAPO, admittedly anti-conspiracists in the conventional use of that marginalizing term, admitted the “official” version of 9/11 is a conspiracy.

Here’s the pertinent quote from the larger WAPO quote above.

The conspiracy apparently did not include a surplus of skilled pilots.

Apparently, all conspiracies are not created equally. Some, for whatever reason, have more weight than others and are considered and accepted as legitimate whereas others are rejected without consideration. A double standard is in play. A convenient double standard, I’d say.

If Osama and Al Qaeda did 9/11, they would have claimed responsibility immediately. That’s the way it works if we’re to believe that Al Qaeda is(was?) a terrorist organization hellbent on destroying America and allegedly made no bone about their goal. Instead, Osama denied responsibility. What kind of terrorist denies such a successful strike against the United States? Certainly not a terrorist, and terrorist organization, capable of such a clever adn complex strike.

Assuming for the moment Al Qaeda and Osama were responsible for 9/11 despite Osama denying it, that famous quote from the movie The Deer Hunter comes to mind. One shot. The sheep-herding cave-dwelling masterminds, geniuses that they must have been to pull this off, had to know they had only one shot at something this bold and brazen compared to their previous work. It would have been incumbent upon them to dot every “i” and cross every “t.” A surplus of flunky, unskilled pilots is not congruent with that fundamentally crucial requirement. Osama and Al Qaeda cannot be both crude and unsophisticated on the one hand and clever and sophisticated on the other. It’s one or the other. You can’t have both. Not when you have only one shot.

Hugh, please note that I am not attacking you. I am a detective by my very nature. I always have been. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve caught my teenage son and solved the riddle when my wife and daughter are completely bamboozled by him and he fools them every time. You must remove the preconceived notions, the emotions, and just focus on the facts.

http://www.deepjournal.com/p/7/a/en/2659.html

A pilot with a major carrier for over 30 years told CNN that “the hijackers must have been extremely knowledgeable and capable aviators”.[8] An air traffic controller from Dulles International Airport told ABC News, “The speed, the maneuverability, the way that he turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experienced air traffic controllers, that that was a military plane. You don’t fly a 757 in that manner. It’s unsafe.”[9]

CBS News suggested that according to its sources, Flight 77, “flying at more than 400 mph, was too fast and too high when it neared the Pentagon at 9:35. The hijacker-pilots were then forced to execute a difficult high-speed descending turn. Radar shows Flight 77 did a downward spiral, turning almost a complete circle and dropping the last 7,000 feet in two-and-a-half minutes. The steep turn was so smooth, the sources say, it’s clear there was no fight for control going on. And the complex maneuver suggests the hijackers had better flying skills than many investigators first believed. The jetliner disappeared from radar at 9:37 and less than a minute later it clipped the tops of street lights and plowed into the Pentagon at 460 mph.”[10]

The Washington Post similarly noted that the plane “was flown with extraordinary skill, making it highly likely that a trained pilot was at the helm”. Hanjour was so skilled, in fact, that “just as the plane seemed to be on a suicide mission into the White House, the unidentified pilot” – later identified as Hanjour – “executed a pivot so tight it reminded observers of a fighter jet maneuver.”[11] The Post reported in another article that “After the attacks … aviation experts concluded that the final maneuvers of American Airlines Flight 77 – a tight turn followed by a steep, accurate descent into the Pentagon – was the work of ‘a great talent … virtually a textbook turn and landing,’”.[12]

In our world, nobody can keep a secret. Most things are done out in the open with those responsible secure in the knowledge that most people won’t remember what happened beyond the next few weeks., or will obligingly invent their own conspiracies to explain it.

A decade or two back, I found this convincing. Now, given the sheer viciousness of the persecution of whistleblowers, I don’t any more. The invention of ten false conspiracy theories doesn’t mean that an eleventh one is false. The way to keep claiming it’s false is to keep any original documents/wiretaps/videos secret, and it’s the release of those things that have sent our leaders into paroxysms of cruelty towards Manning and Assange in particular.

If you are going to propose a conspiracy theory, you have to show how that conspiracy fits into a narrative, and that that narrative is more powerful and coherent than what is already out there.

9/11 was a crime, not a story or a narrative as you say. As such, it should be investigated like any other crime. I’m critiquing the so-called “official” investigation. In particular, the part about the Pentagon. It doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. I have no theory. I do not know who or what is responsible for 9/11 and I doubt we will ever know definitively. What I do know is, the so-called “official” investigation doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. That it’s a fabrication. A lie.
The other stuff you mentioned, although related to 9/11, does not change the fact the so-called “official” investigation of the crime that was 9/11 is bollocks.

Also, invading and occupying Iraq was in no way incompetence. It was a deliberate, malevolent act. Those responsible knew exactly what they were doing. Cheney, the architect of it, knew the risks and did it any way. Cheney isn’t stupid. He knew exactly what he was doing. Incompetence is apologia for his war crimes. It lets him off the hook. Biden, since he supported it and voted for it is every bit as much a war criminal as Cheney. It’s one of many reasons I won’t be voting for Biden or for anyone for that matter. There are no good options and we are are well past lesser of two evils having any meaning or effect.

Cheney says in the video below from 1994, “invading and occupying Iraq and toppling Saddam would create a quagmire.” Less than 10 years later he sponsors and spearheads the invasion and occupation of Iraq that topples Saddam thus creating a quagmire and all its implications to include incredible profits for defense contractors. 9/11 was crucial in “making the case” for the invasion and occupation and toppling. In fact, without 9/11, Cheney couldn’t have made the case even though the case he made was all lies just as the so-called “official” investigation of 9/11 is largely a pack of lies.

A person who has spent a good part of his career helping the wealthy and powerful escape justice weighed in on Hani Hanjour. Did anyone really think Mueller would hurt Trump? I never entertained such delusions. Bob’s The Fixer.

From the Deep Journal link above.

Hani Hanjour is the hijacker who flew American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon on the morning of September 11, 2001, according to the official account of terrorist attacks. “The lengthy and extensive flight training obtained by Hani Hanjour throughout his years in the United States makes it reasonable to believe that he was the pilot of Flight 77 on September 11″, concluded FBI Director Robert S. Mueller.[1] The story is that while Hanjour had difficulties learning to fly at first, he persevered, overcame his obstacles, and became an extraordinary enough pilot to be able to precisely hit his target after performing a difficult flight maneuver.

No, Bob, it’s not “reasonable to believe,” as you say. It’s unreasonable to believe it. It’s absurd to believe it. What is reasonable to believe, Bob, because it’s a fact, is that Donald Trump is Osama bin Laden times one million. He is the Terrorist In Chief. And you’re fine with that, which also makes you a terrorist, Bob, at least as far as I’m concerned. Nearly 200,000 mostly unwashed Americans have been murdered in cold blood by Odonald bin Trump and you’re complicit in it, Bob. Not that you care. Mass murderers have no conscience.

Plague’s attitude toward any reality that doesn’t fit his view of the world or how he would like the world to be is that it is a lie and hoax. Kind of reminds me of someone else only with orange hair.

What gets lost is the culpability of Saudi Arabia in the attacks.

What gets lost is the culpability of Israel’s partisans in the attacks.

Let’s not forget the Martians. What about Osama and the Martians?

Plague’s attitude toward any reality that doesn’t fit his view of the world or how he would like the world to be is that it is a lie and hoax. Kind of reminds me of someone else only with orange hair.

Odonald bin Trump is anti-science and it’s no coincidence he agrees with the FBI, with Bob Mueller and so many others who pretend to oppose him including you apparently, that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon. To believe this, that the Boeing 757 that was Flight 77 allegedly piloted by The little terrorist who could Hani Hanjour hit the Pentagon, is to disbelieve math and science as the following video illustrates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtlzCyKbw5Q&feature=youtu.be

Note, I have no idea what caused the damage to the Pentagon and who and what is responsible. What I do know is, it wasn’t Flight 77 and it wasn’t Hani Hanjour and Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda as alleged per the 9/11 Commission Report.

Some of the Many Things Most Americans Never Heard About 9/11

The “Dancing Israelis” who turned out to be Israeli Mossad agents caught filming and celebrating the destruction of the twin towers. Arrested by police and released without investigation, they were not mentioned in the 911 Commission Report. Later on Israeli TV they said they were sent to New York to film the destruction of the twin towers. Allegedly, there was no advance warning of the event, but obviously the Israelis knew.

The alleged fundamentalist orthodox fanatical Muslims who were prepared to die to be martyrs, but who drank, drugged, and lived with strippers and prostitutes in Florida. They were the patsies paraded through flight schools and left a highly visible public record. They all flunked out and could not even fly small planes, but performed miraculous flight feats in their attacks on the WTC towers and Pentagon that military and civilian airline pilots say are beyond their own skills. These Saudi Arabians were being operated by US or Israeli intelligence to create a record to serve as a parallel patsy operation that could be used to cover up the false flag attack.

Numerous video cameras recorded whatever exploded at the Pentagon, but the FBI has refused to release them for 18 years. Clearly, the videos do not support the official story.

About half of the alleged hijackers have been found alive and well and deny that they had ever left their countries.

In 2001 no cell phone calls were possible from aircraft at the altitudes from which calls were reported.

The airliners that allegedly hit the twin towers were flimsy compared to the steel and concrete of the towers. The airliners would have smashed against the structure and fallen to the street below.

Pre-knowledge of 9/11 was widespread. The stocks of the two allegedly hijacked airlines were sold short prior to the event, resulting in large profits when the stocks fell in response to the hijackings. The short-sellers were swept under the carpet and not investigated.

FBI director Robert Mueller was instrumental in covering up for the false official story of 9/11, a story that has zero evidence in its behalf.

If a handful of young men with no intelligence service or government support can defeat the entire national security state of the United States and all of its NATO and Israeli allies and successfully attack with devastating results both New York and the Pentagon itself—the very symbol of American military supremacy—the Soviet Union could have wiped out the US and all of Europe without detection. Don’t you wonder how we survived the Soviet Union when the “Great American Superpower” was so easily defeated by a handful of young Saudi Arabians?

Four hijacked airliners are alleged hijacked, all at airports served by an Israeli security company. All four airliners allegedly crash. Two into the WTC towers, one into a field in Pennsylvania, and one into the Pentagon. Yet no airliner debris exists. The Pentagon’s lawn is not even scratched.

The President of the United States refuses to testify before the 9/11 Commission unless he is accompanied by his handler, Vice President Cheney. Both refuse to testify under oath. The 9/11 Commission is oh-so-respectful to the distinguished president and vice president.

One member of the 9/11 Commission, a US Senator, resigned from the Commission, saying that “the fix is in.” After the Commission report was issued, the Commission chairman, vice chairman, and legal counsel wrote books in which they said that information was withheld from the Commission, that the Commission was lied to and considered referring the false testimony to the Justice (sic) Department for prosecution, and that “the Commission was set up to fail.” And not a peep from the controlled pressitute media whose only function is to deliver the controlled explanations that the ruling oligarchs want planted into Americans’ minds.

Tenants of the WTC buildings reported constant noises, floors sealed off, service disruptions and that the excuse was the installation of fiber optic cable. If the buildings faced condemnation as reported because of asbestos fireproofing, who would go to the expense of installing fiber optic cable to upgrade the Internet capability of condemned buildings?

Scientists have found reacted and unreacted nano-thermite and other elements used in controlled demolition. They have proved the existence of these elements. They have samples from the WTC dust left which they have offered to scientists and governments for testing in order to prove or disprove their own findings. No takers.

Instead, we have the appearance of nonsensical claims that the WTC buildings were brought down by a directed energy weapon and by nuclear bombs. These are preposterous allegations, the purpose of which is the deliberate creation of disinformation in order to focus attention away from the false official story and bury it in disagreements about what caused the buildings to fail.

I have checked with weapons specialists who are critics of US government foreign policy and who monitor every development in weapon systems in the US and Russia. This is what they tell me: “I can confidently state that no direct energy weapon, capable of demolishing such a structure at the Twin Towers, existed in 2001, nor does it exist today.”

Another reported that there are lab tests of directed energy in Russia but no deployed weapon. He suggested that people who believe in this fantasy story should explain the safe source of high energy that the alleged weapon used, and how it was moved on site and removed without detection. Moreover, a directed energy burst would show on detectors which monitor the electromagnetic spectrum. No such evidence exists. Since no such weapon has ever been tested to bring down skyscrapers, why would the government take the risk of using such a weapon for the first time in a public scenario where who knows what could go wrong and explanations would have to be given? And why reveal to foreign powers the existence of such a weapon? Controlled demolition is an old and familiar technology that works. And it did.

I could go on and on.

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/09/11/some-of-the-many-things-most-americans-never-heard-about-9-11/

I really miss the old days, when men were men and whack jobs used to care enough to pound out dense little screeds of their own rather than just cutting and pasting grifters. I guess that’s the problem with giving the vocal stupid a home – always a race to the lowest quality of troll.

Willy, the core of WTC 1 & 2 is, or was I should say, the majority of the strength of the buildings. I can understand some pancaking, but what isn’t understandable or believable is the core ripping apart as it did and falling in its imprint. My expectation would have been some partial uneven, versus symmetrical, pancaking exposing some of the core still intact with the majority of the building intact and still standing.

But I’m not focusing on the towers at this juncture. Just the Pentagon. I have proved, actually others have proven, that the “official” narrative, and I call it a narrative or story if you will because it can hardly be called an investigation, as it relates to the Pentagon is a fabrication. This has been proven with math and science. If you refute the math and science, well, you’re no better than Trump who prides himself on eschewing math & science in favor of whatever he says it is or should be.

Since you’re an engineer, surely you understand the math and physics involved in arriving at the impossibility of Flight 77 pulling that many g’s to level off after the last light pole before penetrating the Pentagon so perfectly without hitting the ground well before it. This means, necessarily, the flight data the NTSB released is false. This means the flight path per the “official” narrative is bogus. Per credible eyewitness testimony taken in proximity to the Pentagon event, the flight path of a plane that approached the Pentagon at low altitude that day in proximity to the explosion at the Pentagon, is further north of the “official” flight path and as such, it would have been impossible for this commercial jetliner to have caused the damage to the Pentagon in the way it did. Fyi, in my estimation from reviewing it all closely again and again and again, that flight path, the true flight path, the plane could not have, and did not, struck/strike the Pentagon. It flew directly over it as the explosion was detonated. A witness at the Pentagon saw the plane on the east side of the Pentagon immediately after the explosion at very low altitude flying over the parking area and away from the Pentagon. The witness, by the way, has been muzzled.

Personally, I believe that the planes were remotely piloted by the PTB.

It’d be far more efficient to have a couple small crews planting the devices at night with nobody around, than it would be to have hundreds of crews all over the place doing all the other stuff that would need to be done.

I got the idea from a Batman movie.