September US Covid Update

Cases are going down because T-cell immunity is kicking in. The first wave is the largest and worse, and kills those with co-morbidities. This is what we saw in Sweden and South Dakota, both of which never locked down and just let it blow through after telling everyone to take precautions.

Also what we are seeing across America is areas that already got hit hard are seeing few if any new cases while areas that avoided the first hit are seeing spikes in cases, but not hospitalizations because enough information has leaked out that people are now taking Zinc Ionophores and Zinc.

Africa where HCQ is available over the counter has largely been spared. Asia where Big Pharma has largely been bitch slapped in line, Zinc Ionophores are being used extensively.

We know how to solve and treat this, but Big Pharma runs the show and Trump and the Governors are not putting them in line, each for their own reasons.

Ian, in our COVID discussions on this site herd immunity and HQC not only propagate but go unremarked.

It looks like some degree of acceptance has occurred.

So I have to ask, do you endorse these arguments?

I am genuinely curious what your thoughts are on these two areas of discussion.

Glass Hammer: It’s even worse than that, there are flat-out COVID deniers who comment here sometimes and get away with it.

Forget about the will to do anything needed, people in the US can’t even *conceive* of basic common sense steps. I have never heard anyone even suggest banning people from bringing their herds of uncontrolled brats into stores, and for whatever reason, they do that more now than before covid.

And I’m pretty sure if I said it out loud I would get incredulous stares like suggesting sending the little shits to the moon. UNPOSSIBLE to leave a 10 year old at home unsupervised. Unpossible to leave your younger kids home under the supervision of your 12 year old, because modern twelve year olds have the maturity of kindergartners. And 40 year old men still think they can hang with skateboarders.

Ian, I contend that the majority of US big business would have increased profits in the next 6 month period, IF a nationwide 6-wk lockdown with temporary UBI were enacted. The initial 6 weeks obviously would have lower profits, but the overall 6-month profits would be increased relative to the status quo. Data scientist Mr. Gu from covid19-projections site referenced that OpenTable restuarant sales data was down even in states like GA that had a minimal/insufficient lockdown. Sales are down in many industries due to potential consumers’ fear of COVID risk.

Assuming Prof. Thomas Ferguson “Investment Theory Of Politics” is true (which I personally do) that most US politicians are mere puppets of their Billionaire & S&P500 CXO campaign funders, why does this Funder Oligarch class not insist to their politrickian puppets on such a 6-wk lockdown?

Perhaps your point about oligopolistic consolidation with small/medium business closing would lead to greater upcoming 5-year profits, even if upcoming 6-month profits are down, & that could be why the Funder Oligarch class is not demanding 6-wk lockdown? (Side note: this would contradict the notion that US Capitalists are short-term quarterly profits, uncaring about the next 5 years IBGYBG).

Perhaps it is a fear of showing the “bad example” of the US Federal Gov’t deficit spending for 80% or 99%er concrete material benefit that the 6-wk lockdown with UBI would show, as oppose to traditional big Federal Gov’t spending on 1%er interest like Endless Wars or 2B2F bailouts? That the Funder Oligarchs would rather sacrifice upcoming 6 month profits that even show 1 “glitch in the matrix” that deficit spending for concrete material benefits for the actual public is possible?

Ian, what am I missing here?

IMHO, you cant talk Sweden without talking about all of the countries immediately surrounding Sweden. Norway, Finland and Denmark appear to be reporting significantly better covid success than Sweden is. What’s up with that? Those folks all look and politicize the same to me.

Meanwhile the USA, with the best health care system in the world, is having covid success similar to the likes of Brazil and India, with of all their favelas and slums. Should we be comparing that to them?

Finally, Jordan Peterson went to Serbia to be treated because “North American health care sucks”. Not sure what’s up with that either.

There seems to be much for us rabble to be able to discuss here.

PND, Kalecki figured this out back int he ’40s. Capitalist profits would be higher in high growth full employment economy, why do the capitalists not prefer it?

Because they prefer fearful workers terrified of the lash of unemployment.

They prefer the power to the money.

“Kalecki believed that the full employment delivered by Keynesian policy would eventually lead to a more assertive working class and weakening of the social position of business leaders, causing the elite to react to the erosion of their political power and force a displacement of that policy, in spite of profits being higher than under a laissez-faire system.

From the Kalecki wiki.

“Since many who disagree with Ian’s view state that at the onset I don’t see how one would become confused and so helpless that they need the Blog host’s help in making sense of the world.” – S Brennan

I view sites like products so I evaluate them in their entirety, everything included. (I doubt I am the only one who does this but whether or not others do is up to them.)

And since it a product how I conceive of its quality and utility is relevant to my continued use.

“Now, that’s not to say that it hasn’t become popular for people to attempt to censor those that they disagree with…by appealing to the blogger…” – S Brennan

Look, data curating and data integrity demand data removal.
There is no way to maintain a sound source of information online without censorship.
A data free for all is just a collection of garbage at the end of the day.
So yes, people appeal for data integrity to keep the site functional.

There can’t be a zero censorship environment, it doesn’t work.
There can only be a minimal censorship environment but even that must change if it’s required.

Beyond a certain point, material wealth has no additional material benefits. It has relational benefits. That is, you can have all the clothes, huge houses, luxury cars, and servants that you can even think of, but you always want more status, more deference. If you have 80% of $500 billion while others you deal with get 20%, you would have $400 billion. If you could get half of a larger pie, say $1 trillion, you’d have $500 billion. Would you prefer that? Not if others in the society now get the other half. You’d have no more material benefits than you had before (you haven’t magically increased the amount of clothes you can wear), but others have increased their status.

I like having a comment section that I can comment in without very much risk of being banned. I’ve seen too many interesting commenters get banned from blogs for disagreeing with the blogger on an apparently sensitive issue.

Are Masks a Kind of Vaccine Against COVID-19?

Answer: That’s the way to bet.

More recently, studies conducted in hamsters seem to show that “higher doses of administered virus led to more severe manifestations of COVID-19,” Gandhi and Rutherford wrote. And when the hamsters were protected with simulated masking, they “were less likely to get infected, and if they did get infected, they either were asymptomatic or had milder symptoms than unmasked hamsters,” the experts noted.

For ethical reasons, similar trials in humans haven’t been conducted. But population studies seem to support the “mask as vaccine” theory. For example, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that by mid-July about 40% of coronavirus infections were asymptomatic, but in areas of the United States where mask wearing was very prevalent, that number rose to 80%.

So wearing a mask, and properly, is the way to go. Whenever I must go into some especially unhealthy-looking place, I add side protectors to my eyeglasses. Once back in the car, I have some of the amber (25% ethanol) mouthwash in a small bottle for gargling. Does it help? Who knows, but my mood is surely improved. (An old folded bath towel does good service as a “spittoon”.)

This year was a splendid one for elderberries, and all of mine got processed into syrup. My recipe was on the order of 6 cups juice, 1 cup sugar, and 1 cup whiskey. The latter items serve two functions – pure elderberry juice has an awful taste, and these provide some coverup. They also prevent the syrup from quite freezing, and a little spoon can remove as much of the berry slush as a person feels he needs for a dose.

nihil obstet

If you have 80% of $500 billion while others you deal with get 20%, you would have $400 billion. If you could get half of a larger pie, say $1 trillion, you’d have $500 billion. Would you prefer that? Not if others in the society now get the other half.

Yeah, and that’s kind of what happened with COVID — all the talk about “economy vs. lives” was complete BS — the only way to truly save the economy was to eliminate the virus. Restaurant, hotels, etc. business are just not built to run on 60-70% capacity.

But to save the economy as a whole it would have been necessary for the some of the ultrarich’s wealth to be transferred to the masses.

Can’t have that.

Of course, not only was that not allowed to be an option, the ultrarich used the situation to actually increase both their absolute and relational wealth…

States are returning to normal as if this is all over. My state is in the process of opening gyms and students will be participating in organized contact sports this fall. The stupidity, selfishness, and carelessness are astounding. No one is safe unless you are in the top 1-5% and don’t work for anyone else nor need to work a full-time job for the next several years. In America there will be a second wave of COVID. There will be a stock market collapse. There will be a real estate market collapse. Just be prepared for this starting this fall into 2021 Some of my friends have liquidated their stocks and are hunkering down for the worst next year. Other friends have parents who have lost their jobs and are lucky to still have theirs in order to help their parents stay afloat. As we already know, many people won’t be as lucky nor have the support of other family members to avoid eviction and homelessness. I am frightened of what 2021 will bring. I’m thankful to have my job and be in a house that is paid off, but I expect to be isolated at home for most of winter when COVID and flu cases spike. We are living in awful times.

while i personally have asked Ian to moderate at times simply to prevent the comment section from devolving into the most base ad hominems, other than that i appreciate his extremely light hand.

if you have a problem with understanding that what is written here comes from their individual writers and NOT Ian, and have little to do with Ian, then that is your problem. the same order prevails in most comment forums on the internet, subject to variable whims of individual places. you must not get out very much, even virtually.

please stop trying to turn the place into what you “expect” from a news source. Ian is writing opinion and so are the commentators. Ian backs up his opinions in various ways, but that’s about it. places can become “curated” to death. see NakedCapitalism.com, or Wikipedia.

All the screw-ups have made the situation in the US far worse than it needed to be, but given where we are, we won’t be past this until there is a vaccine and a large portion of Americans ~70% have taken it.

It would be nice to see a public information campaign ramping up to sell the importance of taking the vaccine. But so far it all seems pretty passive.

ProNewerDeal; I can’t believe having to say this, to compare the USA to New Zealand shows a complete lack of geographic knowledge and scale. Unbelievable…in this day and age we have a geographically illiterate public.

BTW ProNewerDeal, back in Feb/Mar I pointed out that it was the end of Summer in the southern hemisphere and that might influence infection rates just the same as it does in the northern hemisphere.

@S Brennan

There does appear to be a major seasonal effect indeed. The virus is not exactly stopped by the summer, as the catastrophic situations that developed in places with eternal summer like Guayaquil, Iquitos and Manaus clearly demonstrated, but based on what happened in the Southern hemisphere it does appear to spread much more easily in cold dry winter weather, as is the case with all respiratory viruses (which also means cases are on average more severe, because of higher initial viral load, compounding the problem).

And that is as ominous for the coming 6-7 months in the Northern hemisphere as it gets.

But NZ is not a case of that effect.

They decided to pursue elimination there as a deliberate general governmental policy. While in the US the equivalent deliberate general governmental policy was to let it rip through the population. This had nothing to do with the weather.

GM,

In reference to:

“And that is as ominous for the coming 6-7 months in the Northern hemisphere as it gets”

Please read up-thread to my original comment on this thread, thanks.

Though I’m getting mighty tired of the Covid situation, I can’t figure out any way it is going to end, let alone end well. There was a chance early in the year to grab the bull by the horns and do some useful things. It wasn’t done. Trump didn’t even try, and even if he had, I’m not sure if the US of A is capable of doing such things anymore. From the Digby site:

The spiral begins when people forget that controlling the pandemic means doing many things at once. The virus can spread before symptoms appear, and does so most easily through five P’s: people in prolonged, poorly ventilated, protection-free proximity.

These and other things didn’t happen, and because of Trump’s sh*t-stirring, they’re not going to happen. Idiots now feel “empowered”, and the right-wing noise machine is going to keep them that way.

In a pandemic without a functioning and capable national government, the separate States will do as they please. All it takes is one dingleberry Governor to spoil everything, and we have many of that breed.

Cutting to the chase, Reagan’s efforts to shrink Government to the point it can be drowned in a bathtub have been successful. The rich bastards run things now, and when they do it badly there are nearly zero consequences for their own precious selves.

https://www.oftwominds.com/blogsept20/melts-into-air9-20.html

How will the status quo collapse? An open conflict–a civil war, an insurrection, a coup–appeals to our affection for drama, but the more likely reality is a decidedly undramatic dissolution in which all the elements of our way of life we reckoned were solid and permanent simply melt into air, to borrow Marx’s trenchant phrase.

In other words, Rome won’t be sacked by Barbarians, or ignite in an insurrectionary conflagration–everything will simply stop working as those burdened with the impossible task of keeping a failed system glued together simply walk away.

Ordinary things aren’t working any more. Mostly that’s because the rich bastards don’t use the same infrastructure as the rest of us. They have their own private jets. They live in gated communities where the water systems and and sewer plants and all the rest are kept in good repair. They have their own schools, so why waste anything on the those for the peasants. “Public” schools are beginning to greatly resemble the Segregated schools of years past – places where damned little money was spent. They also have their very own medical systems, and virtually unlimited subsidies from what remains of Government.

While the Federal Reserve and the Billionaire Class push the stock market to new highs to promote a false facade of prosperity, everyday life will fall apart. The New Nobility’s primary characteristics are infinite greed and near-infinite hubris, and so they will wrongly assume that the professional and working classes they need to keep slaving away for wages that are losing purchasing power are as greedy and blind as themselves.

Anybody who imagines things will get better with President Biden needs to see a shrink. IMO Biden has done a hell of a lot more damage to the nation than has Trump, and that’s really saying something.

Regarding the Covid, I’ll get the vaccinations when they are shown to be safe. And if another variation of these vaccines becomes available in this country, I’ll try to get that one too. In the meantime, a person can only hunker down and cultivate serenity.

All the screw-ups have made the situation in the US far worse than it needed to be…

Screw-ups? They weren’t and they aren’t screw-ups. We know that now, or at least we should. I’ve known it all along and have said as much. To call what has been done and not been done “screw-ups” is to let Trump and the Elite off the hook. Trump not only hasn’t done anything to manage the pandemic but in addition has gone out of his way to prevent it from being managed and he has goaded people to do exactly the wrong thing all the while lining his pockets and the pockets of the Elite. There’s a saying. Take the money and run. Trump and the Elite are taking the money and have taken it but they’re not running. Why should they run? There is no threat. It’s like taking candy from babies, or better yet, like throwing rocks at toddlers, something Trump is quite skilled at considering it was his hobby growing up.

….we won’t be past this until there is a vaccine and a large portion of Americans ~70% have taken it.

So many assume there will be an effective vaccine against this virus. I’m not so confident and in fact, my educated guess is there will never be one despite tghe propaganda to the contrary. Magic bullet thinking won’t rescue us from this virus.

It would be nice to see a public information campaign ramping up to sell the importance of taking the vaccine. But so far it all seems pretty passive.

Please tell me this is sarcasm. Trump is the public information campaign related to a vaccine. He has told us to expect it by October. I, for one, will not be receiving any vaccine even if it’s mandatory. The Elite have proven they are mass murderers every bit as much as their Golem Trump. We’re to believe the same malevolent scum who gave us the Golem Trump on a platter are going to save us with a vaccine? Save us for what? For further torture?

Around here, the virus seemed to start among travelers returning from Europe, Egypt, New York and California. The terrible outbreak on the Navajo Nation was traced to brothers returning from a Christianist religious revival in Southern California and spreading the virus quickly among co-believers in Navajoland. Much more needs to be written about the Christianist determination to spread this virus as much as they can get away with.

But the first cases here and many other places were among the rich or nearly rich. Then very quickly among the poor. Then a kind of wild spread through assisted living and nursing homes. Prisons and other detention sites. Etc.

The rich seemed to figure out how to control it and survive it among themselves very soon after its first appearance — after a few losses, of course. Even among themselves they will sacrifice a few individuals to protect the rest of the herd.

Avoiding contact with the potentially infected unwashed was, of course, crucial. But before they retreated to their guarded compounds, they were actively spreading the virus among their servants and factotums. Who then spread it among their own family and social circles. And so on.

In the United States availability and quality of care and treatment largely depend on ability to pay and so those could pay were provided with “the best care” possible and (mostly) survived to retreat into their hermitages for the duration.

There appeared to be a conscious decision (from where? from whom?) to let the old, weak, and especially the poor face the full brunt of the virus and in many cases just let them go. If they weren’t strong enough, rich enough, young enough, and yes, white enough to get the virus and survive, oh well. Poor devils, right?

It’s very hard to counter that kind of decision making. We the rabble can’t force better care from those above us — who don’t care what happens to those below them anyway.

As many others have pointed out, there was not a lot of mystery about how to effectively control the spread of the virus, nor after some early missteps, was effective prevention and treatment particularly mysterious in most cases. But decisions were made (by whom? where?) not to effectively control or treat the virus among the bulk of the population of the US, and a PR decision was made at the top to actively oppose effective control and treatment among certain groups.

So the virus continues to rage among the vulnerable who can do little about it.

“So, the de facto, main, modus operandi of the powers that be, which damaged the health of the population as a whole, was to suppress information regarding such? (And, in the case of HCQ, availability.)”

Speaking of which, mercola.com is carrying an article “FDA Wants to Ban NAC Now That It Combats COVID-19”, dated Sep. 3.

Our Betters learned long ago, thousands of years ago, that the best prophylactic for them was to have as little contact with the rest of us as possible. That lesson has only been reinforced with the advent and spread of the Outbreak.

They don’t go out to mix with the rabble, and in most cases they won’t even appear above/among them. Their lives are almost entirely separated from those of the masses, and they no longer need or want the personal contact servants they once did. Nearly everything they require can be done or provided without ever coming in contact with a member of the Lower Orders. When one has to be served personally, one has a highly trusted and tested-out-the-wahzoo retainer come in to the protected compound to do only what’s necessary and then leave. Nancy Pelosi’s Dye-Gate incident just showed how slow she’s been on the uptake. No one in her position goes out to get their hair done. The idea is absurd. That she did just shows that she hasn’t caught on to the New Reality. She’s still back in 1970.

Treatment for the virus seems to be more refined than it was, and the barbaric insertion of ventilators hither and thither has been curbed. Oxygen saturation (as was used on Boris Johnson) seems to be preferred, but it depends on circumstance. Masking seems to work even better than drugs. Had masks been available and used/required at the outset, the spread of the virus might not have been stopped, but it would have slowed considerably.

Masks were not available for months, however, unless one made them. Hand sanitizer wasn’t available for months. Even soap was hard to find. Disinfecting wipes still aren’t available. Bogus sanitizer, useless masks, and quacks with their crap “cures” flood the market.

Same as it ever was.

If HCQ were so effective then India and Brazil wouldn’t have so many cases, would they? But they do, as does the USofA, also awash in HCQ. (Disclaimer: I’ve been taking it for years but not for the virus. My doctor says some of his patients taking HCQ got the COVID just the same.)

@Che Pasa

I don’t know many details about HCQ use in India and Brazil. Do you? By details, I mean, what percentage of people get it prophylactically, what percentage get it during (presumed) early onset, etc. I do recall one of their medical groups endorsed it’s use.

I did hear a US doctor, of Indian origin, Dr. Moheen Syed, recently talk about the severe level of vitamin D deficiency in India. I think he said about 65%, but I can’t access the transcript, right now. See “New Study – Vitamin D High Dose and COVID-19” on youtube channel Drbeen Medical Lectures. He goes into more detail about vitamin D against covid19 than anybody I’ve ever heard, before.

The recent report out of Spain, that Dr. Syed talked about, has gotten a lot of press on independent youtube channels. (Laura Ingraham also briefly mentioned it.) It’s gotten attention because (IIRC), it was randomized, “placebo” controlled study, with a p value of about .001. (It wasn’t double blinded, though.) Both arms of the study were getting the “standard of care” in this hospital (or hospitals) in Spain, which included HCQ + azithromycin. However, one arm of the study was also given calcifediol, which is a form of vitamin D that is quickly converted to usable form by the body. (The vitamin D3 you buy from the store takes something like 5 days to be available, biologically.)

So, in this study, HCQ was given after presentation of symptoms severe enough to land you in the hospital. No mention of zinc, that I recall. When no calcifediol was given, about 50% of the HCQ treated patients nevertheless had to go to ICU. So, again, late administration severely degrades it’s efficacy.

Although I would question it’s ethics, additional data showing the same standard of care, with one arm getting calcifediol, and the other arm getting standard, oral, vitamin D3, would be of great interest. It’ inconceivable to me that standard D3 would be as useful, but that’s why you would do the experiment. So that you would know, for sure. I think Dr. Campbell claimed that you’d get the same results if the patients were given vitamin D3 5 days, earlier. Of course, in this wonderful world of ours, it’s not just the US government that is failing to protect their citizens by encouraging vitamin D sufficiency. So, the people presenting covid symptoms bad enough for a hospital visit are highly likely to be D deficient, and those 5 days could make all the difference.

They were talking about it’s use in Brazil, in a recent (say about 2 weeks ago) Steve Bannon warroom show. They said there, the use of HCQ had also been politicized, in a manner analogous to red and blue states in the US, which similarly affected it’s availability. They also mentioned some Latin American country (Paraguay?), that had banned it, for a while. When their infection rate increased, they reversed the ban, and then their rates declined.

@S Brennan

your post is equal parts bizarre, insulting, and showing signs of a persecution complex. It may also be manipulative, but that depends on whether you were writing things disingenuously, to create an effect; or else actually believed what you wrote.

So, you “tried to work with me”, but whatever “work” you had in mind is a mystery to me (except for me to ferret out information of interest to you; e.g., desirable dose of quercetin. I pointed you twice to an interview of Zelenko by Dr. Drew. You thanked me neither time.) Needless to say, I never agreed to working with you on anything.

You claim I “buried” your post “under a post that virtuously called for a charity to be set up, how’s that coming?” So you think I write posts of a certain length, so that I can somehow maliciously suppress your posts – at least for people who are in SUCH a rush to scroll towards the end of the comments? Are you really unaware as to how bizarre this seems?

The charity: water project is very impressive, and I just threw the idea of an analogous effort out there, as an act of hopeful desperation. (I’m also thinking of going into NYC and pitching to whoever they have on staff. Not for ME to do, but for THEM to do.) Why, then, do you ask “how’s that coming”? Did I indicate, or even hint, that I would be trying to organize a charity, myself? It seems like you couldn’t resist an assumed strawman, as a pretext for taking a couple swipes at me.

“Why? Because if Trump mentions 25OHD we will spend the next [week/month..until election] listening to how Calcifediol is a deadly poison, that Calcifediol has killed thousands of people, maybe millions…how a wife murdered her husband with Calcifediol…blah…blah…blah. That’s not Trump’s fault, that’s the D’s/Deep-State & Media-Minions.”

Boo, hoo. You again show a tribalistic tendency to excuse Trump. It’s too bad you don’t care as much about your fellow Americans dying from cheaply preventable diseases, as much as Trump’s re-election chances. Oh, your argument has a sort of circular, self-defeating logic to it. By such “logic”, though, Trump should have gone silent on HCQ as soon as the media started their histrionic, HCQ-related smearing. I.e., be an even bigger coward than he demonstrated.

In point of fact, I think Trump’s chances to get re-elected would improve if he actually FOUGHT for Vitamin D sufficiency, and HCQ availability. If he and his staff weren’t such losers at PR and honest propaganda, they would USE the predictable lying and histrionics of MSM, against them, judo style.

You’re free to disagree, but I hardly care about that.

“Metamars; you put together seven rambling paragraphs on something you didn’t care about? C’mon dude, that lie just makes you look stupid.”

You’re just digging a deeper hole, aren’t you?

The sentence immediately before:
“You’re free to disagree, but I hardly care about that.”

is:
“If he and his staff weren’t such losers at PR and honest propaganda, they would USE the predictable lying and histrionics of MSM, against them, judo style.”

Most people would have correctly realized that the last sentence does, indeed, refer to the one just before it. I find it hard to believe that this did not occur to you, also. So, you again chose the dark side.

As you are rapidly losing credibility in my eyes, I care that much less if we happen to agree on any number of subjects. However, your bizarre accusation prodded me to respond.

If you continue down this path, I suppose I might lose any motivation to even defend myself against yet more of your false accusations.

Then again, just the opposite might happen.

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I was ruminating on the bizarreness of your post, above, as I was walking around on my job. The thought occurred to me that you’re not actually a Trump apologist (as you appear to be), but, instead, a Big Pharma plant. In this case, your job would be to make people avoid organizing for accountability of the Medical Mafia, via the government. This would degrade the desired response to the appalling dysfunction, since millions won’t enhance their immune status without prodding and approval by government, and it’s agencies. They crave “official” legitimacy.

Of course, vitamin D sufficiency is a transpartisan issue, par excellence. A real horror scenario for the powers that be is that the political fragmentation which serves the oligarchs so well would start to heal. The “powers that be” could equally be the plutocracy, in general. Or else, the Medical Mafia.

I’m a big believer in “lifestyle activism”, but only up to a point, and only understood as complementary to political activism. It’s morally criminal for the government not to have alerted the public as to the dangers of Vitamin D insufficiency. It’s also individually morally indefensible to sit around waiting for the government to do right by you, since the government has a long history of throwing the hoi polloi to the wolves. These things are both true, simultaneously.

In fact, my attitude towards the question “what is to be done?” can easily be inferred from the call for a “Movement In 2 Parts” on my website GovernmentIncompetence.org.

I’m not making any definite accusations regarding the real motivation behind your bizarre posts. I can’t crawl inside your head, and look around. However, something isn’t right.

So, to your way of thinking, agreeing with some point of another poster, or expressing some appreciation for their “lonely efforts”, amount to attempting to work with them?

I appreciate many of things Ian has written. If I make that appreciation explicit, does that mean that I have attempted to “work with him”?

You continue to discredit yourself, and digging a deeper hole.