Trump Has Proven the US Is Ripe for a Right-wing Coup

I think the mayor referred to it as the “summer of love” until they showed up at her house and that, as they say, was that.

Well, the truth no longer matters. The US is now ungovernable. Both left wing and right wing groups will begin seizing more areas and ignoring the Federal and State Governments. All because the establishment refused a fair and transparent audit and refused to let people present evidence in court.

So be it. As a medical professional, I have a skill in high demand. I will be fine. I also have a family of farmers.

All because the establishment refused a fair and transparent audit and refused to let people present evidence in court.

Thomas, you are a liar. There were THREE audits, and the only fraud found was a Republican pretending to be his dead mother to vote for Trump. And Trump and his cronies had dozens of opportunities to present evidence in court and either chose not to do so or presented evidence that was rejected because it wasn’t credible.

Once again, you are a liar.

Antifa itself is infiltrated. Anyone serious on the left knows this. Seeing “antifa” somewhere says nothing substantive.

What narrative is this creating? Meanwhile…

The mayor of Portland went on the media platforms the other day to say, “hey now that Biden’s been elected this shit-show has gotta stop” and he threatened state violence for the first time after what, nine months?

Which is what I predicted back in May, the violence by the “left” [actually neoD funded groups] using well known 3-letter-agency “regime change” tactics will be stopped violently when the political aims of the neoDs and or Deep-State are met. Those aims have been met, look for a coordinated crack-down similar to what happened under Obama. I add, to the polite applause of so called “liberals”, “progressives” and “lefties”.

Hell, I remember EZ-Rah Klien’s WaPo article saying how imprisonment of OWS would actually help the cause…in my life I have never seen a person so willing to fellate power in such a supine manner. Any hope for the younger generation faded with that column…and people still take Klein seriously at Vox..sad. I look forward to more of the same in the next few weeks. That’s why “lefties” in America are considered a pathetic joke by those in power, half of them are sheep, the other half are Judas goats, falling all over themselves to be the one to lead the sheep to slaughter…and so it goes.

@Lefty,

Interesting point. Do the non-infiltrator antifas themselves know this? Have the intelligent antifas all left antifa in order to dissociate from the profa infiltrators? Are the only genuine antifas left the intellectual dregs and most witless dupes?

Also, how many of these mobbers were generic MAGAs and how many were specifically Qanons?

“A few weeks ago Ran Prieur wrote something interesting about Trump and the Trumpies which can help understand how Trump and the Trumpies are handling Trump’s loss. I hope Ian Welsh will forgive my copy-pasting this chunk of Ran Prieur writing on the subject.

December 2. Far Side: wolf returns to city of strawBack to politics, my latest take on Donald Trump is that he’s a time traveller from the past. In the movie Idiocracy, a completely average guy from our time goes hundreds of years into the future, and humans have become so stupid that he’s a super-genius and the most important man in the world.

In our world, instead of becoming stupid, we became nice.

Trump comes from a time where if you meet a weaker man on the road, you take all his stuff and leave him in the ditch to be ignored by passers-by. A lot of ancient history was actually like that. Someone from that world, in ours, would marvel at the charity of his adversaries, and the gullibility of his allies.

His downfall was that he never understood us. Deep down, he really believed that if he insulted John McCain enough, Arizonans would recognize him as the stronger leader. That’s why he thinks the election was stolen, because he cannot understand how any strategy could win other than absolute ruthlessness.

I do appreciate Trump for being so transparently who he is, and it’s the strangest thing that his followers don’t see it. People are worried about deep fakes, but one thing I learned in 2020 is that no technology can distort reality better than the human mind.

I think Trump started out cynically exploiting his followers, and together they fell into madness. That madness is an epistemological practice: building your mental model, of the world beyond your senses, as whatever you want it to be, or whatever makes your life feel meaningful.

Philosophically, I’m a pan-first-personist. I believe that reality is fully created by experiencing perspectives, because that’s all reality is. But that doesn’t mean you can just do anything. We have to share the universe with other reality-creating perspectives, and one thing you can’t do, is make other people not real.

When Trumpers say Biden won through voter fraud, what they mean is, they don’t think Biden voters are real. And reality creation goes way deeper than other humans. Somewhere I read that shamanic healers say the one thing they have no power over, is a pandemic. So… South Dakota ER nurse recalls how dying patients spend last minutes insisting virus isn’t real.”

The question Blue Zonians might ponder is how many millions of Trump supporters are full psychotic-break maniacs at this point? And how much can they be disengaged from? Nothing much will be achieved at the FedGov level. Blue Zonians might focus their efforts on governating and upgrading their own Blue Zone areas and might start thinking about how to make them less economically involved with the Trump Zone areas.

It suddenly occurs to me that someone should write a parody of song . . . ” Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am – stuck in the middle with you.”

” Clintards to the left of me, MAGAs to the right, here I am – stuck in the middle with you.” And so forth and so on.

I thought Thomas was a comedy troll? He did refer us to Sidney Powell and Dr. Steve Turley, always wrong but fantastic sources of belly laughs. I rather liked the idea of Chavez, China, the DNC, Bill Gates and Tom Hanks sneaking around pizza parlor basements with fake ballots and bodysnatched voting machines.

With Dominion bringing a lawsuit and Detroit looking to disbar Powell, I’m hoping that she’ll represent herself in court and bring back our favorite star Kraken witness Melissa Carrone. Plus that secret intelligence guy. Good times ahead.

There are clear similarities between Boris Yelstin standing on the tank in front of the Russian White House and Donald J Trump speaking to his supporters on the steps of the Capitol. For both the internal contradictions between reality and the propaganda made the continuation of their Empires impossible. Both Congresses are at the mercy of the police and military to do their jobs or not. An extra 2.5-3 million died in middle age between 1991-2001 in Russia. A similar number will die in the USA if the inequality and corruption are not addressed. The 370,000 US deaths in the Pandemic is the first down payment. Joe Biden will fail. At his core he cannot admit that he is a prime example of the professional ten percent who are exploiting the ninety percent to stay in suburbia helping the 0.1% get obscenely rich.

I wish we could have big nationally televised trials like Watergate was, but put the real criminals on trial. Point public rage at the right targets.

A narrative consensus seems to be forming that ‘something’ should be done about yesterday’s mayhem at the Capitol — but nothing will be.

Calls for Trump’s impeachment, removal, or resignation are apparently going to go nowhere. His social media time outs will end, and he will resume inciting his fans and followers who will do what they do. As I said a while ago, we’re liable to see more violence, at least one state capitol torched, maybe more, possible street fighting here and there, police standing back and standing by — except to arrest alleged “antifa” — and there will be more paralysis in Washington.

‘Something’ should be done, but nothing will be. Our rulers appear to be enjoying the spectacle of the rabble on a rampage — and of course fighting one another — and doing anything about it would interfere with their entertainment and pleasure.

Soon enough, the ransacking of the Capitol in DC will be forgotten as more dramatic crises will not-spontaneously arise, and nothing substantive will be done about them, either.

Talk about a Reality Show climax…

It appears the color revolution against the US has succeeded. A few hours of Antifa like rioting by a relatively few participants of the protestors was all it took to curtail debate on the swing state electors to get knocked out of prime time, and Trump to be blamed for, well, everything, including the killing of the Air Force vet.

That the actual rioters behaved like Antifa people is apparently no coincidence. See, e.g., the horn wearing dude that @SidneyPowell1 retweeted.

For those who aren’t 100% delusional, or invested in their ideological identity, or other forms of irrationality, they can reason by analogy by studying how law enforcement and the court system handled the treatment of evidence with respect to the JFK assassination and 911. Also, a useful factoid/analogy for ‘appreciating’ the media’s fidelity with respect to exposing Deep State crimes can read or listen to Dr. Pepper’s account of the civil trial, by the family of MLK, against the government, that the MLK family WON. Pepper was their lawyer.

Specifically, Pepper has also described the behavior of the media during the trial. I could spell it out further, but don’t have the stomach for it. I could see having a rational discussion with Thomas Golladay, e.g., but, as always, the only value to ‘arguing’ with the “nothing to see here” people is to show how shabby their arguments are, for the benefit of other people. We’ve seen how the hydroxychloroquine deniers are not amenable to rational arguments based on science, on this blog, and there we’re talking about what is arguably much higher quality evidence.

I have recently started to pull my ugly “voter’s revenge” project out of mothballs, and have posted the screenshots of a re-imagined, less ugly version at votersrevenge.info. While the tool was originally motivated by, and focused on, the transpartisan issue of sinking the TPP, I think a more useful approach nowadays is to start out with 2 main posse issues, one for left leaning populists, and one for right leaning populists.

The Election Steal 2020 cause will still be useful, for right leaning populists, for another year, I would guess. Certainly in a place like Georgia, and certainly if leaders and influentials (like firebrand John Fredericks, who is often interviewed on War Room Pandemic) push it. (Ideally, this would include Trump, but that is not necessary.)

For left leaning populists, the hard coded posse issue that I would favor is “Medicare for All”. If you haven’t heard Jimmy Dore youtubes on this, I suggest you give a listen.

I’m sorry that I didn’t make some effort on this starting a couple months earlier. However, now that the color revolution is all but complete, I don’t have much stomach for it, either. If anybody is interested, they can DM me on reddit (where I’m metamars_ ), and I can instruct them on how they can get a working, simplified but (hopefully) very useful tool coded overseas relatively cheaply. (I’ll guess less than $2,500. Will hopefully have an estimate in a day or two.) I don’t seek or accept money, but I’m sure I could spec things out and act as business user, for somebody who is not as $$ challenged as I am.

I have heard Steve Bannon use the terms “posse” and “wrangler” in recent days, so maybe I have gotten through to the “war room pandemic” crowd.

We could also see a nasty backlash from the state as they massively increase domestic security … one would think that would have been foreseen. No?

Poor planning does not constitute a crisis, until it does.

Took a selfie vandalizing government property ~ lol

One interesting sideline might be that Hawley has over-played his hand. It will be interesting to see if he can re-calibrate his brand to cover himself after being such a visible player in this debacle.

Also, I thought the crowd that crashed through the barricades were armed, or that some in the crowd were. Now I’m starting to learn that they were not. If that is true, then no matter how outlandish or distasteful their behavior was, calling it a coup attempt should earn a person lifetime status as an Honorary Karen.

– We got a lot more in common with those protestors than our rulers. I respect what they did. Our greedy, global killing machine government that’s overlooking a “controlled” kill of the people it purports to represent, dropping bombs on innocent people and overthrowing democratically elected governments overseas, and lighting this planet on fire deserves to be shut down.

– It’s not unreasonable for them to suspect that the democrats stole the election. It wouldn’t be out of character and for all we know it could even be 100% correct. It’s not a question in my mind if they cheated, the question is did they cheat enough to outcheat the republicans and overturn the actual voters’ will.

– Creepy Joe and Kamalala, her of zero delegates during the democratic party presidential primaries and slated to be sixth place in her own home state, have the backing of nobody but our rulers, our rulers’ propaganda apparatus we call the U.S. news, and people who are not desperate enough to get out on the streets and fight. Let’s see how that goes for them …

– Unhinged Giuliani had an understated role in this episode. He held a rally in DC yesterday calling for “trial by combat.” Trump had probably ordered the Capitol cops not to shoot and once Giuliani lit that patriotic fire and people started pushing it with those cops some of the protestors probably thought they’d be brave and die a hero and when the cops wouldn’t shoot them eventually the numbers won out in a low grade battle and the cops had to retreat and then give up and just hope to control the crowd as best they could. Once they got breached they did one hell of a job IMO, or got incredibly lucky, keeping the damage as low as it was on both sides. Again, I doubt the Capitol cops invited them in but they were surrounded and had to give ground and managed the situation very well considering the circumstances.

– I think it’s notable that Unhinged Giuliani, like many of the over the hill gang who govern us, is abnormally energetic for a man of his age and shape. One of the problems with the lack of accountability of our ruling class is once they get in it’s almost impossible to root them out and they can hang on way past their due date running on the fumes of amphetamines, chasing dopamine pings, and making short-sighted, selfish, stupid decisions that we, their subjects, are forced to live with the consequences of.

– There are no political solutions available for the subjects in this country and that was made clear by the fact that even though damn near 80% of the people agree with a $2K payout that 100% of “Let Them Eat Shit” Mitch can dictate to us that we don’t get it. Of course we know that is an oversimplification of the situation and he was not actually alone, he had plenty of propagandic support from the liberal econogandists and media pundits such as Friedman, Krugman, Summers, the WaPo editorial board overseen by Fred Hiatt, and the Bloomberg editorial board not to mention that damn near all the beat reporters from Bloomberg, the NY Times, and the WaPo reported on the issue in the most unfavorable terms possible to the $2K payout playing up the overall cost of the program, the ones who didn’t “deserve” it, the percentage increase in the checks that Trump proposed (over 200% increase!), and giving an unrepresentative large amount of ink to the “everyday folks” who said they didn’t need the checks, etc. and including only passing consideration of the desperation of our most needy in their “reporting”. It’s no damn surprise that people charged Capitol Hill after the operation our rulers pulled denying them an extra $1400 so many so desperately needed. And do you think it’s lost on them that the stock market is making record highs while they have to sacrifice and scramble to survive, some in tents for the first time, seeing no future for themselves with the current arrangement, and waiting in long lines for food handouts?

– Since our rulers offer no political solutions to their subjects existential concerns this is what happens. It’s not going to be sorted out by a communal dance party. Life is not a Coca-Cola commercial. It’s going to be messy and ugly and that’s the way it goes since our rulers made it this way and I just wish it was bloodier for them yesterday. They got plenty of our blood on their hands and I wouldn’t have minded seeing a bunch of them who worked to deny us $1400 die over the all blessed deficit to see how important it would be to the rest of them in the future. I’d imagine that the people won a few more votes in the Senate and the House for the $2K checks yesterday.

Z

@dc

It would be quite a project trying to figure out who’s who. It would never end, it would consume all one’s time and would induce psychic stress and all its accompanying psychological issues. Not to mention basic issues of human trust.

And that’s exactly the point.

Chicago Clubs:
Apparently you’ve never perused Atrios’s comment threads. Not that Duncan’s little wads compare even remotely to Ian’s posts.

@ zot23

I came over when Naked Capitalism’s comments were closed and I’m still getting a feel for things. So far I really like this simpler, more open format.

Jason:
Ian’s threads are what happens when mods don’t quash dissent and let the commentariat do it instead. Ego’s abound, but we generally keep it reasoned and civil. But, get in a habit of ad hom’ing or flagrant trolling and Ian will show you the direction to the door.

So the Trumpers response is “Must have been antifa.” – Hugh

Or….

Antifa is a demon that possesses good Americans.

Makes perfect sense.

So, I guess the question going forward will be whether or not the Cletus Coup will be seen as a one off or a precursor a la the Beer Hall Putsch

I was able to partake in the various comment threads over at Naked Capitalism and I took something away from all of them.

No, Hugh, an election is only an election if established laws are followed, which are in place to ensure a level playing field and prevent fraud.

It is always interesting to see self-proclaimed radicals locking arms with the regime, speaking with the same words and phrases, and the same forked tongue. Antifa and the FBI: two peas in a pod.

One would reasonably expect the FBI to be Anti-Fascist, to be anti-NAZI; afterall we fought at least one war, A Great War, arguably two wars, The War of Treason in the Name of Owning Humans, to put an end to it. Sadly, like the poor, the NAZIs, the trash, will always be with us.

Tell us, Lizard of Booze, do you still maintain as you have in the past the dead children and teachers and the grieving community of parents, educators and first responders at Sandy Hook School are all ‘crisis actors’, and those dead children and teachers are in fact not dead?

[1] Mike Davis at NLR with some intelligent analysis —

https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/riot-on-the-hill

‘Yesterday’s ‘sacrileges’ in our temple of democracy – oh, poor defiled city on the hill, etc. – constituted an ‘insurrection’ only in the sense of dark comedy. What was essentially a big biker gang dressed as circus performers and war-surplus barbarians – including the guy with a painted face posing as horned bison in a fur coat – stormed the ultimate country club, squatted on Pence’s throne, chased Senators into the sewers, casually picked their noses and rifled files and, above all, shot endless selfies to send to the dudes back home. Otherwise they didn’t have a clue….

‘But something unexpectedly profound happened: a deus ex machina that lifted the curse of Trump from the careers of conservative war hawks and right-wing young lions …’

‘the True Trumpists have become a de facto third party, bunkered down heavily in the House of Representatives … reconciliation between the two camps will probably become impossible … Mar-a-Lago will become base camp for the Trump death cult which will continue to mobilize his hardcore followers to terrorize Republican primaries and ensure the preservation of a large die-hard contingent in the House …(and) red-state legislatures ….

‘Freed from Trump’s electronic fatwas … some of the younger Republican senators may prove to be much more formidable competitors for the white college-educated suburban vote than centrist Democrats realize. ‘

I strongly agree with “anon” that it’s interesting how these NeoConfederate, Mencius Moldbug MAGAtt types are commenting at a website like this. Why? I support Ian’s work and apart from SB’s endless fellating of the Strong Man he worships, I’d wonder why these people are here.

As to Ian’s main point, I think the far right is obviously very dangerous at this point, and though I am over 60 years old there has been no serious “Left” in this country except for early in my lifetime, and there is next to none now. There are a few voices in the wilderness like Ian (Canadian, though, right?), the Chapo Trap House Gang, Naked Capitalism (yeah, it sucks that their comments had been shut down), CounterPunch and Jimmy Dore.

The elected “left” like AOC et al rapidly get controlled, neutered and then shut down. There will not be economic justice in the US EVER, based on the 2 right-wing Duopoly parties, the crypto-fascist Jesus Nut R’s and the smug, TINA, PMC, bomb-the-brown-people and rule-the-world Dims. The 45 year redistribution of resources from 90% of the population (including the former Middle Class, RIP) to the top 0.1% . . . . Trump killed ’em off openly with his indifference (& I’m glad yesterday’s event was surely a Super-Spreader event, Darwin awards for all including hopefully the complicit Capitol Cops), the Harris Executive (Joe’s an empty suit) will kill them off with a few soothing idpol words in hopes of keeping everyone quiet and doing the 2 things that will never change anything– 1. Believing the MSM lies; 2. Voting for what we are offered.

U.S. is a failed state and the only question is how fast or slow the collapse is. I hope the Blue Areas can let the empire die and keep some facade of a livable society, the (R) areas will be something like the Taliban would enjoy– controlling women, killing queers, etc. As Schiller said, “Against stupidity, the Gods contend in vain.” The Ruling Class and its voters are deeply stupid, and there are not enough sentient consumers in “USA” to save it.

Do you see what I see: the interesting discussion to which referred was on NC, not here. I also thought my discussion here was a waste of time, since I spent all of my time quibbling about my introductory statement, which was meant to lead to something interesting. but couldn’t,

Ian, thank you for the response just after my comment, whether it was triggered by my comment or others. I have no objection to open commenting (though I suppose there are limits, like actual threats.) As Nietzsche observed long ago, ideology implies blinders (“Convictions make convicts” in one translation) and I like hearing for diverse views. Sometimes people I strongly disagree with most of the time make points that I respect and value.

Oh, & I could’ve added MoonOfAlabama to the list of valuable websites that are among the few worth pursuing (Caitlin Johnson I think is outstanding as well.) Whomever runs MoA, “b” has an incoherent and idiotic main take on yesterday’s failed insurrection today, implying that Trump actually “won” the election despite the complete lack of evidence supporting that. However, most of the time their anti-imperialism is refreshing and smart relative to the Empire supporting stenography of the MSM. And their commentariat is all over the map . . . from anti-Zionists (who I respect) to crazed anti-Semites or Conspiracists.

Still, like your website, a more interesting read than most of the stuff you see on MSM websites, or even on Eschaton, which got taken over by Rabid Clintonites. Anyway, we live in “interesting times”, and as it all falls apart this is one of my top half-dozen go-to sources for intelligent comment. Otherwise, it’s mostly a desert out in the http://www., as we all know.

Pu-leaze ~ circus performers and war-surplus barbarians dressed as what they think a big biker should look like (seriously? a guy with a painted face posing as horned bison in a fur coat?). It is … embarrassing.

She. SB is a she. ‘Bout daylight in Hawaii, she should be showing up here soon.

Let me correct Ché’s remark:

“for the record, there was a right wing coup on 22 Nov 1963…We are still living out the consequences of that right wing coup more than 57 years later.”

There…fixed.

The first D elected after LBJ’s catastrophic choice to escalate VietNam and just after Ford [last of the new deal R’s] took the stage as a neoD, albeit not one of Al From’s infamous gang, nope, Carter had been convinced by none other that Milton Friedman that returning to the Gilded-Age economics [sans mercantilism] was the way to go.

And while Carter went down in flames, he did fitfully start the D’s return to wilsonian policies…which led to his being utterly defeated by Reagan. After Carter, the the party of FDR was seized by Al From’s DLC in the early 80’s, that cabal ruthlessly purged the party apparatus of any FDRist holdovers, then they put some of their whores in the front window and turned the red light on. At first it was a trickle, but eventually a flood of money from the financial/insurance/de-industrialization sector started to flood the DNC coffers. That’s when the party of FDR ended and became what I now refer to as neoDs…yeah, they still talk left, but they govern hard right.

Wittness Biden today, talking about extending SSI benefits to government workers who already have generous, rock-solid pensions that pay two to three times the average SSI claimants benefits. Example; the teacher on the cul de sac above me retired at age 50 and collects northward of $3,500/mo. Not a fortune to be sure but, the average SSI claimant is around $1500.00 at 65.

Why would Biden give such a benifet right before the last of the late boomers hit the system in two years? To create a crisis? To lay the groundwork for the destruction of the two pillars of FDRism?

Biden has little time to be in office, he will suffer no repercussions in his lifetime, he will help finish the job started in November 1963.

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I wasn’t aware of this. Preconceived notions are adjusting to new information.

“seized by Al From’s DLC” – S Brennan

Al From, now there is a name that doesn’t make it into political discussions nearly enough.

Really jogged my memory just reading the name again.

I got kicked off of NakedCapitalism and I still donate to it.

I’ve had my skirmishes with her, but I reckon Susan does a lot more good than bad though I agree with plenty of the criticisms that I’ve read here of her.

I’ve also learned a lot from her site and she is worth supporting IMO.

Z

Speaking of right wingers who comment here, honestly or like some cult zombie….

I’ve been observing a post-capitol riot discussion on an evangelical blog. They talk of “cuckservatives”, RINOs, devious antifa operatives, those always-evil leftists, and the biblical righteousness of Trump. It’s as if any reality outside of their own has no place with these people. Reality cannot penetrate because they’ve tied their religious faith to it.
Trump obviously noticed and took full advantage.

I may go ahead and declare that the currently ongoing conservative divide is happening between the philosophically secular small government types, and the far more tribal religious nutjob/monster which the former captured/created for votes way back in decades past.

What to do with the monster Frankenstein created? The monster doesn’t care that Frankenstein used science to create him. It now only wants to eat the poor doctor, rationalizing away every other consideration.

Disclaimer: IMO, any religion which doesn’t harm outsiders or fight directly against all of the American founders visions (the better visions that is), is fine by me. Don’t start nothing wont be nothing.

The US will be ripe for a right wing coup only if the evangelical mob is up for it. The ones I know claim they don’t believe in a theocracy, yet if God wills a theocracy then they’re fully up for it. If Barr, Bolton, McConnell and Romney are any examples, there are more honest right wing thinkers out there willing to try and stop their monster.

Listen, don’t shoot those medical guys. These doctors are doing a great job, a great job.

Space aliens are a myth, since everybody knows that the earth is flat.

I know Iranians who back in 1970s Iran, were on the anti-establishment side (anti Shah). Yet after their Khomeini-worshipping allies took power, they had to get the hell out of their country lest they get persecuted, likely worse than they ever had under the Shah.

So Thomas, whose side are you on?

@ Golladay

The youtube of Robert Barnes that you posted was one of the most interesting things I’ve heard in a long, long while.

The most interesting bit of inside baseball is that Trump found out about Barr finding out about a ballot stuffing cheat in Michigan, but did nothing. Trump apparently got angry enough at Barr to fire him, but his comment about him previously “liking” Barr fits only too well with Trump’s gracious public comment about Barr’s ‘departure’.

Both of these are bizarre. Barr and some others in the DOJ effectively spat on the constitution and electoral process. While a few thousand votes in MI aren’t a national tragedy, the collective vote steal is. Trump, though, despite spouting endless MAGA rhetoric, doesn’t care about long term damage from Barr’s treason TO AMERICA. Hell, he didn’t even care that much about Barr’s role making his Presidency a one term affair, and him a loser to the likes of abusing father of auto-pornographer Hunter, Basement Joe Biden!

No, what he cares about is that he liked Barr, and thought Barr liked him! I guess he still wants Barr to like him, because of course what he should have done is expose Barr for the execrable traitor he is.

The cause of national populism might well be better off without bizarro Trump as anything more consequential than cheerleader. Trump had powers that he refused to use, and even at this late date, he continues to underwhelm with his total lack of judgement. What confidence can any sane person have that he would be any more competent during a 2nd term? He seems to be a better speaker now, than he was 4 years ago, but aside from that, I’m not see any development into competent leadership.

Trump may have made the smallest of dents in “the swamp”, which Biden will quickly restore, anyway, within 6 months. (I’m ignoring conservative judge appointees, of which I know no details. My assumption is that they are significantly less toxic than liberal judges, but they as a class seem just as corrupt as US Senators, the Deep State creeps, and the unelected bureaucrats who supposedly regulate business in the public interest, etc.)

Not much of a legacy, which is appropriate for somebody so incompetent.

Metamars and other right-wingers here have been talking about things that simply did not happen as though they did for months now. There can be no rational engagement with them when they reject reality in favor of their preferred narratives. It’s like trying to debate science with someone who insists that the sky is made of cheese.

Good. You Americans deserve to be run by right wing dictators. You’re a bunch of craven cowards. Enjoy the spoils of your cravenness.

“Anyway, America is now a pre-coup nation. the”

The

We do have a left-wing party, instead, we have UKIP and a Conservative Party. The Conservatives suddenly realize that the police are a right-wing institution – which is slightly obvious.

I can’t take anyone seriously if they listen to Pim Tool period. Pim Tool who kept braying there was a second civil war coming, he had as many videos saying that he thought AOC would lose. Really not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Secondly all of this was fomented by a sore loser who knew that most votes were going to coming in as absentee ballots since we are *still* currently in a pandemic and the vote totals would show up at the end of the day. Why did the votes show up at the end of election day and not counted before? Because State Republicans in swing states (know Penns for sure) explicitly mandated the election board that they wanted them to count it only after the election days ballots were counted. This is part in partial of enablers everywhere trying to fudge up the process (which is already abysmal by peer nation standards).

What did I say just the other day? Yves closes comments and they all come here.

This is not a new thing, same as it ever was. Trouble is, her trolls come too.

And stay …

As NR shows, he lives in an alternate reality and is not reconcilable.

Oh, you are projecting, Thomas. I notice you completely ignored the evidence provided debunking your lies earlier in these comments, and you just continually come back with links to crazy Youtube conspiracy theorists.

You’re clearly hopeless, but for everyone else, the fact is that there were multiple audits of the vote counts, and the only fraud discovered was a Republican pretending to be his dead mother to vote for Trump. That is reality, regardless of whether or not some choose to engage with it.

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I know I’m legacy, but is Tim Pool the most trusted man in America now? He seems a dapper young man.

Steven Sund the head of the Capitol police has resigned. He had worked for the DC police for 25 years and had been head of its Special Ops Division. Given the differences between how recent protests have been treated, it’s pretty clear that the Trump protesters/rioters were considered peaceful because white.

Yet another rational person in an increasingly irrational world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wl-YH-GBEE&ab_channel=R%26RLawGroup

Again with Tim Pool, I don’t agree with him on everything, same as I do with Jimmy Dore and others such as Ian. He recognizes the same problems I do and recognizes he has biases and he doesn’t have all the answers. He also knows to sit the fence and cool his passions before acting and potentially making things worse.

@ Willy:

Thanks for that insight on Tim Pool and others. Makes sense.

I know for an absolute fact the DOD of the USA has a contingency for dealing with enemies domestic and internal. Anyone not duly elected is not going to take control of anything. This is wargamed all the time. Further yesterday’s farce was by design. Pence & McConnell are not stupid, they did something to discredit those who wanted to challenge the electoral vote counts and Trump. Easy: trump [sic] started the riot and then it was allowed to happen. 4 dead not bad. Coup, madmen, riots, doesn’t matter trump et al will always be considered crazy at best and traitors at worst. What comes next if your poor and in the working class – misery. The only way to create equality and equity in this society is make sure people have enough money. That’s sort of a place holder for a decent life. It can be achieved in a number ways. As a student of Jared Diamond I’d say, there will be blood, & a civil war. But this is a global thing, not just American. In some ways we are at war with reality. Reality doesn’t care. As for god, be careful what you pray for.

@Hugh,

It’s the rats who leave the sinking ship. We will see what other rats try to save themselves from the sinking ship.

Scrolling past people we are not interested in reading is so easy. If, for some reason, I can not or will not, scroll past people that don’t say things that interest me, I really don’t see why that is Ian’s responsibility.